Edelbrock Water Pump Finally!

[1958 delivery]

I was informed my new alum water pump was finally shipped yesterday, YAHOO!
It makes me wonder if Edelbrock had these cast in China, as long as it took to release them.:dunno

[tripower]

I was informed my new alum water pump was finally shipped yesterday, YAHOO!
It makes me wonder if Edelbrock had these cast in China, as long as it took to release them.:dunno

58, can I ask what the cost on that was?:dunno

[blown 409]

i talked to rep at last car show he told me $ 140, i orderd one from Jegs today with my racer discout was $199.91 Tim

[1958 delivery]

It's been so long I've forgotten exactly. I ordered through Summit, around $237 or whatever they're advertising it for.

[Boat]

Mine shipped also...whohoo!

[JimKwiatkowski]

Mine was shipped today :)

[models916]

Make sure you paint them things orange. Don't want anybody knowing you're fooling around with the General's perfection. I think a performance report is needed for this long awaited product.

[Thirdyfivepickup]

I was informed my new alum water pump was finally shipped yesterday, YAHOO!
It makes me wonder if Edelbrock had these cast in China, as long as it took to release them.:dunno

No. You can be assured that they are made in America. That is the one thing Edelbrock has going for it.

Lucky these aren't popular in the mainstream... otherwise mailorder whores would be selling them so cheap that the only ones making any money on the would be Vic himself...

(can you tell I'm in the industry? :rolleyes: I just sold a Performer intake and 600 carb for a SBC and made $12 on the combo. The shop I sold it to is making $18 and matching mailorder. We have 11% profit margin to split two ways... :doh Thank you edelbrock...) :bang

-rant over

[32witha409]

Let us know what you think of them when you recieve them. Might get one for my current project.:brow

Robert

[1958 delivery]

No. You can be assured that they are made in America. That is the one thing Edelbrock has going for it.

Lucky these aren't popular in the mainstream... otherwise mailorder whores would be selling them so cheap that the only ones making any money on the would be Vic himself...

(can you tell I'm in the industry? :rolleyes: I just sold a Performer intake and 600 carb for a SBC and made $12 on the combo. The shop I sold it to is making $18 and matching mailorder. We have 11% profit margin to split two ways... :doh Thank you edelbrock...) :bang

-rant over

That's what Summit and Jegs have caused for the little guy. I guess it's called competition.
I stop stocking any product that is sold wholesale to Summit or Jegs.
Edelbrock has a whole lot of their work done in Mexico so don't toot their horn so loudly. In fact it would be better for the consumer if they imported from China, the price could be lowered.
Very important, don't bo so sure that they aren't already importing from Asia. I know oif a few very large companies that import from there ,do a little machining and assembly and claim it's "made in the USA"! That's a fact.
I would like to drop some names but some of these large companies could squash me like a little bug, so just be aware that it's being done, regularly.

On another note, these aluminum water pumps can be done in Asia very inexpensively, just as good of quality. I had already looked into it. Problem for me is I don't want to stock min 500 water pumps per engine type, but my cost would be around $65 ea alum, cast iron about $30ea.
Having min 500 alum water pumps in stock for 409/348 doesn't excite me.d

[Boat]

Mine was on the doorstep tuesday!

Nothing to put it on yet, still waiting for gel coat...

[409 Chevy Performance]

Got my initial edlebrock water pumps in today. I ordered 5 and got 3 shipped. Callled Atech Motor sports or Summitt and was informed that they are not stocking this item as a shelf part. You can order a water pump and it will be dropped shipped. They shipped out pre-ordered water pumps from all BO. Other 2 pumps coming direct from Edlebrock. FYI

[JimKwiatkowski]

I got my pump today here's a few photos.I'll be doing my test Sunday,it will be in the 90's.I'm testing the Edelbrock pump against my stock pump with the stock cast iron impeller.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/JIMKWI/Picture329.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/JIMKWI/Picture328.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/JIMKWI/Picture327.jpg

[skipxt4]

That's a real nice looking pump, Jim. I hope it cools the engine better than a stock pump.:clap For $200.00 plus, you would think it should. The Edelbrock insignia looks good on there. Lets hope it lives up to its name. :dunno JMO Skip:)

[DaveFoster]

Did anyone find out if the Edelbrock waterpump is rebuildable? If so how much? And do they offer polishing from Edelbrock?

[1958 delivery]

Did anyone find out if the Edelbrock waterpump is rebuildable? If so how much? And do they offer polishing from Edelbrock?

Why would you want to pay Edelbrock double what it cost to polish? There's small polishing shops galore in your/our neighborhood. You can get that done for about $40-$60 in a few days.

[JimKwiatkowski]

Dave,here's a link to a photo of the insides of the Edelbrock pump,the seal and bearing & shaft assembly look just like the 409 rebuild kit :dunno As for the polishing I don't think they offer that,after my test I'm going to polish my pump with many hours of sanding before buffing.

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/water_pumps/water_pumps_main.shtml

[chevytaylor]

Hi Jim,


Nice pump. Polished would sure look great.


Please correct me if I'm wrong,............ but doesn't polishing external engine parts actually assist with heat issues? :scratch

chevytaylor :)

[1958 delivery]

Hi Jim,


Nice pump. Polished would sure look great.


Please correct me if I'm wrong,............ but doesn't polishing external engine parts actually assist with heat issues? :scratch

chevytaylor :)


The opposite effect, less surface area to radiate heat but the difference is quite small and not an issue, at least for me.

[DaveFoster]

Why would you want to pay Edelbrock double what it cost to polish? There's small polishing shops galore in your/our neighborhood. You can get that done for about $40-$60 in a few days.

I try to weigh the pros and cons, first by ordering a polished pump, if available, and not knowing what Edelbrock would charge if it was, job is done, no extra running around, no sorry I lost your part, sorry I ruined your part, sorry it didn't turn out as nice as I thought it would, or maybe not in this case, but getting someone elses part back that wasn't as nice as yours. Seen all of this happen, especially with early big chevy trim and Harley parts.

[1958 delivery]

I try to weigh the pros and cons, first by ordering a polished pump, if available, and not knowing what Edelbrock would charge if it was, job is done, no extra running around, no sorry I lost your part, sorry I ruined your part, sorry it didn't turn out as nice as I thought it would, or maybe not in this case, but getting someone elses part back that wasn't as nice as yours. Seen all of this happen, especially with early big chevy trim and Harley parts.



True, fortunately I use a polisher that is trouble free, or has been for the last couple of years. But I totally understand what you are saying. Plating shops are the ones notorious for those hassles.

[JimKwiatkowski]

I just drove the 57 from work about 10 miles,I drove speeds of 30 to 45 MPH.The temp was 81 deg and the 57 ran 160 degrees and the needle didn't move at stop lights.I'll still run the test between the 2 pumps in temps in the 90's on Sunday,but I don't think I'll see much change between the 2 pumps.I bought the Edelbrock pump for mostly the looks,I plan on polishing the pump after the test.I would like to see some test results from a member that bought the pump for cooling concerns instead of looks.

[Dick MacKenzie]

I saw Jim at US 131 Motorsports park in Martin MI Sunday (the more I see that 57 the more I fall in love with it :clap ). The day started in the 80s and progressed into the high 90s before it was over. Jim pulled into the pit and checked the temp of his "09". About a 170 degrees in 90 degree weather after idling from the main gate to where we were! Don't know how you do it Jim.

[JimKwiatkowski]

I saw Jim at US 131 Motorsports park in Martin MI Sunday (the more I see that 57 the more I fall in love with it :clap ). The day started in the 80s and progressed into the high 90s before it was over. Jim pulled into the pit and checked the temp of his "09". About a 170 degrees in 90 degree weather after idling from the main gate to where we were! Don't know how you do it Jim.

Dick,Thanks for the kind words,the trip home was also a cool ride,the 09 was running temps of 170 to 175 at 70mph on the e-way in 95 degree heat.in the city driving temps did'nt go over 175 deg.It was too hot to switch to the Edelbrock and road test,I'll do that the next hot day.The Edelbrock pump has it's work cut out to beat my stock pump :dunno

[JimKwiatkowski]

This past weekend I spent at least 10 hours,with my die grinder and Emory cloth smoothing my pump for buffing.Monday I sent pump to the buffer and I don't have it back to test.I hope I get my pump next week so I can test the pump before Norwalk,here's some photos.

Has anyone else tested the Edelbrock pump :dunno

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/JIMKWI/Picture328.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/JIMKWI/Picture346.jpg

[MRHP]

I got mine, I just ain't got it on yet. I think I am going to fill the Edelbrock signature and paint mine orange. I know, I ain't right. Just think it will look better on my car painted. Looks like lots of work polishing.

[desapience]

This past weekend I spent at least 10 hours,with my die grinder and Emory cloth smoothing my pump for buffing.Monday I sent pump to the buffer and I don't have it back to test.I hope I get my pump next week so I can test the pump before Norwalk,here's some photos.

Has anyone else tested the Edelbrock pump :dunno

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/JIMKWI/Picture328.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/JIMKWI/Picture346.jpg

Jim,

Eastwood, and even Home Depot both sell capable and complete polishing kits! Add some elbow grease, and you get all the shine you desire!

After you get it back polished, I strongly recommend that you use the ZOOPS polish pad-tape and proctectant. The stuff actually works -- the aluminum resists oxydizing and staining so common to polished aluminum parts.

Be sure to update us with new pictues of it installed!!! By the way, did you encounter the backplate bolt clashing against the timing cover, like I did?

Denis

[JimKwiatkowski]

Jim,

Eastwood, and even Home Depot both sell capable and complete polishing kits! Add some elbow grease, and you get all the shine you desire!

After you get it back polished, I strongly recommend that you use the ZOOPS polish pad-tape and proctectant. The stuff actually works -- the aluminum resists oxydizing and staining so common to polished aluminum parts.

Be sure to update us with new pictues of it installed!!! By the way, did you encounter the backplate bolt clashing against the timing cover, like I did?

Denis

Denis,I haven't installed the pump yet,what is polish pad-tape and proctectant :dunno .Could you post a link ?

[quik9r]

I had three on order and Jegs pulled my order and said no longer avaiable and that was July 10/07 ? Jegs had 6 on order in total? I will have to call today

[skipxt4]

Eastwood sells a product called Diamond Clear, for bare metal surfaces. I painted my intake with it, after I polished it. I don't know how it'll stand up to daily hot/cold cycles on the engine, since my engine isn't running yet. I can honestly say, it didn't take anything away from the shine, after I sprayed it on. :clap Skip:)

[desapience]

Denis,I haven't installed the pump yet,what is polish pad-tape and proctectant :dunno .Could you post a link ?

Jim,

The product is called "Luster pad"...

The link to ZOOPS products is www.zoops.com/zoopseal.asp
But, I did not see the Luster-pad metal polish there.

Call them... at: (951) 922-2396

Denis

[JimKwiatkowski]

Jim,

The product is called "Luster pad"...

The link to ZOOPS products is www.zoops.com/zoopseal.asp
But, I did not see the Luster-pad metal polish there.

Call them... at: (951) 922-2396

Denis

Thanks Denis,how come you didn't polish your Edelbrock pump,and how come you didn't you use your Lamar pump :dunno

[desapience]

Thanks Denis,how come you didn't polish your Edelbrock pump,and how come you didn't you use your Lamar pump :dunno

Jim,

Actually, I just didn't feel ike polishing the Edelbrock water pump! As it is, there's plenty enough glitz on this engine to blind you! And, the pictures posted of it, do not give the engine jusitce, believe me!

As for the Lamar WP (actually Lamar had nothing to do with prodicing these WP's), I wanted something that cooled at least as good as a stock wwater-pump, that the so-called Lamar pump is not up to it. I will eventually rebuild it with proper inards...

Denis

[JimKwiatkowski]

I tested my new Edelbrock water pump in 95 deg heat today,the pump ran 180 to 200 deg.My cast iron pump ran 170 to 180 deg in the same temps,as today.Tomorrow I will install a 1 inch restrictor to slow down the flow,and re-test.The pump does look great polished.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/JIMKWI/Picture483.jpg

[bignbad60]

Looks good, but what are the internal differences between the Edelbrock unit and a stock piece ?

[JimKwiatkowski]

Looks good, but what are the internal differences between the Edelbrock unit and a stock piece ?

The Inpeller is bigger than a stock pump,and has more coolant flow.Here's a link to the insides of the new pump.

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/water_pumps/water_pumps_main.shtml

[CHEV601234]

They cound;nt even press in a tube for the by-pass hose??? Take off the back and see what the mpeller is made of.....
Also noticed the name is indented so it can't be groud off...

[JimKwiatkowski]

They cound;nt even press in a tube for the by-pass hose??? Take off the back and see what the mpeller is made of.....
Also noticed the name is indented so it can't be groud off...

Why do you want a press in by pass tube ?I like the 3/8 inch pipe plug.Why do you want to grind the name off pump ?Here's a photo of the back of the pump with the cover off,the impeller is made of precision cast powdered metal.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/JIMKWI/Picture332-1.jpg

[1958 delivery]

They cound;nt even press in a tube for the by-pass hose??? Take off the back and see what the mpeller is made of.....
Also noticed the name is indented so it can't be groud off...



Why would you want a pressed in tube for the by-pass? That's just one of the reasons I refuse to buy the cast iron pump that Showcars sells, it has a pressed in by-pass tube. I don't run a by-pass, so I would be stuck with an ugly rubber nipple to plug that thing off. The original GM's did not press in a by-pass tube.

[models916]

I pulled my bypass out and tapped the hole. Screwed in a chrome pipe plug. By Pass makes the heater come on sooner in cold weather only.

[JimKwiatkowski]

I tested my new Edelbrock water pump in 95 deg heat today,the pump ran 180 to 200 deg.My cast iron pump ran 170 to 180 deg in the same temps,as today.Tomorrow I will install a 1 inch restrictor to slow down the flow,and re-test.The pump does look great polished.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/JIMKWI/Picture483.jpg

Today I re-tested the pump,in 90deg heat the 09 ran 170 on the road at 55mph,and 200 city driving.

Tomorrow I will be installing a180 high flow stat and 7 inch water pump pulley and re-test.If I can't get this 09 any cooler I will go back to a stock pump and re-test.

[MRHP]

Correct me if I am wrong, but all 348 409 waterpumps from the general had a pressed in by-pass tube. At least all the ones i've seen. Pull out the tube and tap it for a pipe plug if you want it to go away. Easy fix!:D

[JimKwiatkowski]

They cound;nt even press in a tube for the by-pass hose??? Take off the back and see what the mpeller is made of.....
Also noticed the name is indented so it can't be groud off...

Hey Guys,you read this wrong.CHEV601234 Wants a press in by pass tube.As for me I like to use a 5/8 inch soft plug :dunno

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/JIMKWI/Picture485.jpg

[JimKwiatkowski]

I'm I the only member that owns a Edelbrock Pump,am I the only one testing this pump,and I'm I the only member that cares about the test results:dunno

[MRHP]

Easy Jim, I care. I have one and will be installing in a week or two. With the increased volume, I would assume you would have to run a thermostat. I run a Mr.Gasket hi-flow. Dropped 10 degrees by going with the Hi-flow stat. I run a 160 if memory serves.

[JimKwiatkowski]

Easy Jim, I care. I have one and will be installing in a week or two. With the increased volume, I would assume you would have to run a thermostat. I run a Mr.Gasket hi-flow. Dropped 10 degrees by going with the Hi-flow stat. I run a 160 if memory serves.

OK just checking,I installed a Mr.Gasket 180 high flow.I will re-test tomorrow when its 90 degrees.

[Ronnie Russell]

Jim, Let me get this straight....... Your cooling with the cast iron pump was envied and admired by everyone, so you chose the Edelbrock pump because.....er, well, why did you choose the Edelbrock pump ?? The aluminum look ?? It is nice looking. Hope you can get back to cooling good. If you need to get rid to that nasty old pump that provided the 160 temps. ,,,, send it to Texas... :beerbang

[JimKwiatkowski]

Jim, Let me get this straight....... Your cooling with the cast iron pump was envied and admired by everyone, so you chose the Edelbrock pump because.....er, well, why did you choose the Edelbrock pump ?? The aluminum look ?? It is nice looking. Hope you can get back to cooling good. If you need to get rid to that nasty old pump that provided the 160 temps. ,,,, send it to Texas... :beerbang

Ronnie,if I can't get this Aluminum pump to work for me,I will go back to my stock cast iron pump.I spent $700 on a MSD-6LA and Distributor and i put that on the shelf,and went back Mallory Unilite Dist with HyFire IV and the 57 starts and runs better than ever :dunno

[desapience]

Ronnie,if I can't get this Aluminum pump to work for me,I will go back to my stock cast iron pump.I spent $700 on a MSD-6LA and Distributor and i put that on the shelf,and went back Mallory Unilite Dist with HyFire IV and the 57 starts and runs better than ever :dunno

Jim & Guys!

Here's a few more pics of my hydraulic-roller 446, with the EDELBROCK WP, painted! Jim, yours looks great polished, but if polished on my 446, there would be too much added glitz.

The pictures also show the chromed-steel pulleys -- 6" WP, and 7" Crank. I'm still several weeks off from firing it up, but -- it may never see the 55 Chevy's engine bay!

You see, my aluminum heads should be here next week (still getting the valve work), and so, I'll be building out my 3rd stroker using those heads, pronto. " :dunno

Enjoy the pictures!

Denis :beerbang

[skipxt4]

Denis. All I can say is WOW.:clap WOW:clap :clap I'd say it again, but I don't usually stutter.:rofl :rofl

[JimKwiatkowski]

Denis the engine look great :clap .I've done 5 road test,with the new Edelbrock water pump here they are

Road test
(1) 95 deg--6"water pump pulley--no stat---180 to 200 deg
(2) 92 deg--6" water pump pulley--1"restrict or--175 to 200 deg
(3) 85 deg--6" water pump pulley--180 stat--190 to 210 deg
(4) 82 deg--7" water pump pulley--no stat--180 to 210 deg
(5) 83 deg--6" water pump pulley--no stat--160 to 190 deg

It looks like the 57 preforms better in 80 deg temps with the 6"water pump pulley.
Denis,do you know where I can get a 5 1/2 inch water pump pulley :dunno :dunno

I still think my stock water preforms better,and I still might re-test the stock pump in 95 deg heat.

[MRHP]

Although the Edelbrock pump performs o.k. I am suprised it does not cool as well as a stock rebuild. Have you tried a 160 hi-flow stat? I finally got the rear together today and went for a ride. 80 or so today and it ran 170-185 hiway and in town with a stock pump. How much coolant do you run in your water. Remember, coolant impedes the cooling process. Run the minimum you can and cooling will increase. I will be installing the pump this coming week. I will be plugging off the bypass port. This I am told will help cooling slightly. Heater is also going I think. Will let you know what happens! :cheers

[JimKwiatkowski]

Although the Redbrick pump performs o.k. I am surprised it does not cool as well as a stock rebuild. Have you tried a 160 hi-flow stat? I finally got the rear together today and went for a ride. 80 or so today and it ran 170-185 hi way and in town with a stock pump. How much coolant do you run in your water. Remember, coolant impedes the cooling process. Run the minimum you can and cooling will increase. I will be installing the pump this coming week. I will be plugging off the bypass port. This I am told will help cooling slightly. Heater is also going I think. Will let you know what happens! :cheers

Your 409 might run good with the new Edlebrock pump,so Please post your results.IMO it seems like all W's cool different :dunno .I run a 50/50 mix with distilled water. Everybody seems to want to use 180 hi-flow stat,I tried it and my 09 ran hot,my 09 runs better without a stat or a 1"restrictor.It seems like the impeller in the stock pump has a better coolant flow :dunno Today and tomrrow it will be 80's so a bad day to test.next week it will be good day to test it will be it in the 90's

[desapience]

Denis the engine look great :clap .I've done 5 road test,with the new Edelbrock water pump here they are

Road test
(1) 95 deg--6"water pump pulley--no stat---180 to 200 deg
(2) 92 deg--6" water pump pulley--1"restrict or--175 to 200 deg
(3) 85 deg--6" water pump pulley--180 stat--190 to 210 deg
(4) 82 deg--7" water pump pulley--no stat--180 to 210 deg
(5) 83 deg--6" water pump pulley--no stat--160 to 190 deg

It looks like the 57 preforms better in 80 deg temps with the 6"water pump pulley.
Denis,do you know where I can get a 5 1/2 inch water pump pulley :dunno :dunno

I still think my stock water preforms better,and I still might re-test the stock pump in 95 deg heat.

Jim,

From your above test results, I'm assuming you had the SAME belt-driven fan on all of the tests, yes?

In the testing above, (4) & (5), the improvement in cooling (if you used the fan), likely came from the faster rotation of the fan, and NOT because of a perceived increased coolant flow..., we demonstrated that last year, remember?

From (1) (2) & (3) above (using the same 6" WP-pulley ), it is clear that a 1" restrictor plate works better. Using a 180 thermostat, does not perfrom as well because no matter what temp-stat you use, it will somewhat block coolant flow, even when wide open. A 1" restrictor plate basically simulates a wide-open stat from moment one, but, without the added hardware what would block flow.

Also, to better compare your results, you need to define whether the car is running down the road or static in a garage, and the time and speed held if it is a true "road test", or the actual length of time the engine was running, if static in the garage.

If you really want to put a dead comparison of the Edelbrock WP to a stock pump, you need to test them at the same outside temperature (or inside garage temp), same 6" WP pulley and fan, and for the same time and speed held (or time running static in the garage).

As for a 5" WP pulley, my buddy runs one on his 383 dual quad gasser 55 chevy. He got it from March. I also have one, (billet aluminum) and although the pulley grooves are deeper, they do align with the crank pulley grooves. You may also need a spacer bushing because the WP pulley hole is larger (3/4") than the 5/8" WP shaft (I have one of them as well). I'll post a picture of it on my 446 if you like.

Remember too, if you do run a 7" Crank pulley with a 5" WP pulley, you'll be running some significant increases in WP RPM's..., but it'll surely pull a ton more air through the radiator!!

Denis

[JimKwiatkowski]

Jim,

From your above test results, I'm assuming you had the SAME belt-driven fan on all of the tests, yes?

In the testing above, (4) & (5), the improvement in cooling (if you used the fan), likely came from the faster rotation of the fan, and NOT because of a perceived increased coolant flow..., we demonstrated that last year, remember?

From (1) (2) & (3) above (using the same 6" WP-pulley ), it is clear that a 1" restrictor plate works better. Using a 180 thermostat, does not perfrom as well because no matter what temp-stat you use, it will somewhat block coolant flow, even when wide open. A 1" restrictor plate basically simulates a wide-open stat from moment one, but, without the added hardware what would block flow.

Also, to better compare your results, you need to define whether the car is running down the road or static in a garage, and the time and speed held if it is a true "road test", or the actual length of time the engine was running, if static in the garage.

If you really want to put a dead comparison of the Edelbrock WP to a stock pump, you need to test them at the same outside temperature (or inside garage temp), same 6" WP pulley and fan, and for the same time and speed held (or time running static in the garage).

As for a 5" WP pulley, my buddy runs one on his 383 dual quad gasser 55 chevy. He got it from March. I also have one, (billet aluminum) and although the pulley grooves are deeper, they do align with the crank pulley grooves. You may also need a spacer bushing because the WP pulley hole is larger (3/4") than the 5/8" WP shaft (I have one of them as well). I'll post a picture of it on my 446 if you like.

Remember too, if you do run a 7" Crank pulley with a 5" WP pulley, you'll be running some significant increases in WP RPM's..., but it'll surely pull a ton more air through the radiator!!

Denis

Denis,all tests were done on the same 13 mile route,I went through 4 different speed zones,25,35,45 and 55mph,I also let the 57 idle 5 min in the driveway.Do you know the part # on the 5 inch pulley ?

[JimKwiatkowski]

Yesterday I went to a car show and Cruise,the 5 1/4"Water Pump Pulley preformed Great and the Autolite Platinum spark plugs preformed Great on startup,idle and performance :) I ran 140 deg on the open road and 190 to 200 deg in bumper to bumper slow moving traffic.More Good news the 57 took a top 25 Award :D

Road test
(1) 95 deg--6"water pump pulley--no stat---180 to 200 deg
(2) 92 deg--6" water pump pulley--1"restrict or--175 to 200 deg
(3) 85 deg--6" water pump pulley--180 stat--190 to 210 deg
(4) 82 deg--7" water pump pulley--no stat--180 to 210 deg
(5) 83 deg--6" water pump pulley--no stat--160 to 190 deg
(6) 82 deg--5 1/4"water pump pulley no stat--140 to 190 deg

[johnnyrod]

Congratulations on your top 25 reward. 57s are pretty nice rides.JimWiatowski Gotta love it.:brow
John

[Ronnie Russell]

Congratulations Jim,,,,,, What can you possibly improve now?? If there is such a thing as the ultimate cruiser,, I think you own it. Great job !! :)

[buildit]

All this water pump/pulley diameter/fan & shroud size testing is a tremendous benefit for everyone. Beautiful work on those cars.

Something MAGIC about a 409 in a tri-five.

[Dick MacKenzie]

Congrats Jim! :clap :clap I'd like to have seen the cars that came in ahead of you. They must be something because that 57 is just about the finest car I've seen! :cheers

[NITROFC]

Can't wait to get mine and paint it PURPLE !!!...........:brow :doh :brow

[desapience]

Jim,
Congratulations on the top 25 award.. the '57' deserved it for sure!

We really need to get all the FORUM tri-5 W's together one day!!!

I recevied my 2nd Edelbrock aluminum WP today -- from Summit. I ordered the thing eons ago... came in from their Nevada warehouse.

I'll be ordering the rest of the inards for my next 446 stroker, which will sport Bob Walla's aluminum heads, the Edel-WP, and a few other surprises to be announced later.

By the way, I rethought the throttle linkage for the M/T x-ram intake. Prior pictures I posted of my current 446 had the primary linkage on the driver's side carb, which worked fine but, left little room for error with the master cylinder and firewall. I went to a new billet Lokar back-bracket mounted on the passenger side carb -- much cleaner looking and more effective install. I'll post more pics of it soon.

Denis

[Skip FIx]

Mine is on a UPS truck somewhere.