camshaft and intake recomendation for 348 stroker

[62belairwagon]

looking for some recommendations on a hydraulic flat tappet grind camshaft and induction for the 380 W series stroker i am slowly building.... looking to make 400 hp . engine so far is as follows .030 block, 10.5:1 ross pistons 6.135" h beam eagle bbc rods, 409 crankshaft. 817 heads with 2.06/1.72 valves.

[jim_ss409]

I'm no expert but here's a couple of cams from Aubrey's site that might be good. My guess is the first one probably wouldn't quite get you to 400hp but I think the second one should.:dunno

Part # H-224557D
Advertised Duration 268/280
Duration @.050 224/230
Lift .557/.560

Part # H-230569D
Advertised Duration 274/286
Duration @.050 230/236
Lift .569/.574

Here's the link... http://www.bruneauperformance.ca/409chevyengineparts.html

I think the best intake would be the single quad, single plane one Aubrey's working on.
If you wanted to go with a dual quad, I think the Edelbrock might be a little better than the Offy for 400hp or less, but that's just a guess. I'm hoping others might also have an opinion.

[62belairwagon]

well id be happy to hear everyones recommendations that would get me to the 400hp mark.

[fatride]

All 348 Ws come with a notch in the cylinder wall that will lower the comp ratio unless the Ross pistons have this figured in. I'm guessing for a big horse 348 will need some big compression.

[jim_ss409]

This 388ci stroked 348 made 355hp at the rear wheels... http://www.348-409.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9306 Using a really conservative 15 percent for driveline loss that works out to 417hp at the flywheel. My guess is this engine would likely pull 425hp or more on an engine dyno.:scratch
He used a solid flat tappet cam with 242-246 @.050 duration. When you allow for valve lash the duration would be comparable with a hydraulic cam with about 234-238 @.050 so it's not too far off the second cam I mentioned earlier.

[62belairwagon]

actually aubrey i am yet to buy the pistons.. and yes i do still plan to get them from you and possibly a camshaft since it seems out of all the guys i have talked to your the only one that has faith in the w series engines and is the only guy that seems to be able to supply the hardcore quality parts for them. everyone else i talk to gives ya the usual response build a small block or big block chev and leave the past in the past lol well i dont think that way im going W series it suits the era of car....and you make them rumble good....:cheers

[petepedlar]

Belair wagon.......... wrong again :takethat:takethat:takethat

There are many hard core 409 guys on here....... and a lot of them can make them sing........ yes Aubrey is one....... how 'bout a couple of 409's that can do mid 10's in full size Chevy's........ actually there's a lot more than a couple Oh.... and don't forget that dump truck engine down there in Texas....... there's many more.



Dave

[Phil Reed]

Did we lose a couple of posts here last night?????????:dunno:dunno:dun

[Dick MacKenzie]

Ohh........Sorry Phil......here's a post I'll give back.....

http://bp2.blogger.com/_xDUAuE-pObc/RdtzP7j6gII/AAAAAAAAAHk/m0Zi4_U0xsg/s320/Fence+Post.jpg

:rofl:rofl

[dq409]

You`re very sick Dick,,, VERY SICK !!:rofl

[oldskydog]

Ohh........Sorry Phil......here's a post I'll give back.....

http://bp2.blogger.com/_xDUAuE-pObc/RdtzP7j6gII/AAAAAAAAAHk/m0Zi4_U0xsg/s320/Fence+Post.jpg

:rofl:rofl

Hey, that looks like a TEXAS post. Where did you get it?:eek:
Only Dick would have a pic of a post in his collection.:doh
:rofl

[CDNpontiac409guy]

Yeah, I deleted mine because I made Ronnie mad. Ronnie... well, I think he may have deleted his, because I deleted mine:dunno.

Who cares ????

Dick's post is WAY WAY WAY better anyhow:beerbang:beerbang

I bet I can find some posts like that around here too:deal

[boxerdog]

I read them both before they got deleted...I hope nobody got too PO'd because it seemed like an honest difference of opinion. I'd say no harm, no foul and it was handled well by all involved.

I enjoy reading as many of these posts as I can because there is always something to be learned about these old warriors. The engines, that is. And sometimes we learn a little bit about the people as well.

But...there did seem to be a big discrepancy in those test results, and we'll probably never know all of the reasons, so it's open season on speculation, I guess. We'll never see the kind of dyno flog they do on the other Chevies, simply because the W's are so scarce and parts aren't being handed out for this sort of test.

Plus, there may only be a few hundred of us that would care about the outcome!

[Ronnie Russell]

Aubrey, You did not make me mad. As boxerdog said, just an honest difference of opinion. It takes a heck of a lot to make me mad. Something in the order of knowing Phil is in Texas without acquiring permission from proper authorities, ( me ). I deleted my post because it made no sense with Aubreys being deleted. Water under the bridge. Aubrey and I have had difference of opinions before and probably will in the future. Isn't that what an open forum all about? Crap! We cant all agree about everything , all of the time. I respect Aubrey for his knowledge and skills, certainly no hard feelings coming from here.

[CDNpontiac409guy]

certainly no hard feelings coming from here.

Nor here, Ronnie.
Besides, I still have the advantage....





















Phil doesn't even come here with his truck, so he CAN pick up all the W block parts:coffee:

[chevytaylor]

Dyno Smyno............................numbers are just that, numbers. Take a full size Chevy and shoot it down the 1/4, and that will tell ya how much power your making. :coffee:

[petepedlar]

Hey 62Belairwagon, you have a private message.Dave

[dq409]

Ohh........Sorry Phil......here's a post I'll give back.....

http://bp2.blogger.com/_xDUAuE-pObc/RdtzP7j6gII/AAAAAAAAAHk/m0Zi4_U0xsg/s320/Fence+Post.jpg

:rofl:rofl


TEXAS STATE TREE !!!

[Ronnie Russell]

I think you are right Jim, I do see an awful lot of those growing around here.

[larry t]

TEXAS STATE TREE !!!

Are you sure that's a Native Texas Post? It should have 5 strands of barbed wire nailed to it, not hog wire.
Larry T

[dq409]

Are you sure that's a Native Texas Post? It should have 5 strands of barbed wire nailed to it, not hog wire.
Larry T

Thats not HOG wire,,, Thats Armadillo wire !!!:brow

[raymar58454]

TEXAS STATE TREE !!!

I thought it was a
















TEXAS family tree:rofl:rofl

[petepedlar]

Well at least we know that things in Texas are straight up.......... but I thought 409 dump truck engines grew out of the ground down there.

:rofl:rofl:rofl

Dave

[dq409]

Well at least we know that things in Texas are straight up.......... but I thought 409 dump truck engines grew out of the ground down there.

:rofl:rofl:rofl

Dave


NOTHING will grow in the ground in Texas !!!:rofl

[Brian Thompson]

NOTHING will grow in the ground in Texas !!!:rofl

I will have to agree with you on this one! When we first bought our house, the builder put in trees that we didn't like, so about a year later, I took them out and replanted some Magnolis trees. During this process I ruptured 2 disc's in my lower back, had 2 back surgeries for disc replacement, and over $200,000.00 in medical fees. 4 years later the trees haven't grown at all and my neighbors love to remind of this point! :takethat:takethat:takethat

Oh, I did plant some Banana trees next to my pond and they are now producing Banana's for the first time! I was very proud.

[oldskydog]

I will have to agree with you on this one! When we first bought our house, the builder put in trees that we didn't like, so about a year later, I took them out and replanted some Magnolis trees. During this process I ruptured 2 disc's in my lower back, had 2 back surgeries for disc replacement, and over $200,000.00 in medical fees. 4 years later the trees haven't grown at all and my neighbors love to remind of this point! :takethat:takethat:takethat

Oh, I did plant some Banana trees next to my pond and they are now producing Banana's for the first time! I was very proud.

:doh
You plant magnolias in Alabama, not Texas.

:rofl

[Brian Thompson]

:doh
You plant magnolias in Alabama, not Texas.

:rofl

Yes, I know... I found out the hard way!!! :doh:takethat:doh

[dq409]

Those are some dang expensive dead trees!!!!!:rofl:rofl:eek:

[Brian Thompson]

Those are some dang expensive dead trees!!!!!:rofl:rofl:eek:

Yeah, I know. :bang My wife reminds me of it everytime we walk by them!