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bill409mac
08-06-2008, 06:09 PM
I have a 64 ss 409 that had a clutch/shift problem since I purchased it in Nov of last year(couldnt adjust the clutch ). I took it to a guy that is well known for working on problems such as what I was experiencing. He first drove the car and then agreed with me I had problems. He then proceeded to jack up the car and crawl underneath to do a "look see" and said there was a scattershield that didnt look right and the shift linkage wasnt correct because it didnt have the pressure clips and assumed that something wasnt right with the clutch set up. He then said that he could make it right, but I would need to leave him have the car for a week. We set up an appointment and he had the car. Two days later he informed me I needed a new bellhousing,clutch,pressure plate,flywheel and throw out bearing. Last Saturday he called me to pick up the car, said everything was fine. He showed me the parts that he replaced and said the bellhousing had a pivot point welded in the wrong place and the clutch fork clip was broken off. So he put in a new clutch fork also. Also, he pulled a 1" rubber stopper from the clutch pedal exp laing it was used to keep the throw out bearing from being noisey. He drove the car hard and said I could take this car anywhere with no worries.I squared up with him and took off down the road(1st mistake).

I got about 15 miles from his shop and heard a squeeling noise and thought it was my a/c fan. So at the stop light I turned the switch off and the noise went away. The next mile I started hearing it again. This time I put my foot on the clutch ever so lightly,and could feel the throw out bearing change noise levels. There is absolutely no free play in this clutch. Exactly the same problem I took to him for. I called him and explained the problem and he told me to bring it back and he will adjust it again. Im not the best mechanic in the world, but I have adjusted clutches before and its pretty simple. If I adjust the pedal linkage 1 full turn , I cant get the car into reverse. If I adjust the linkage the other way, the clutch doesn't disengage all the way.

So whatever parts he put in, I have the same problem as before. There has to be
a common mistake when the car was put together, before I got it, and he just put the same parts back in but new. Are there different parts for a 409 clutch assembly? I do know he used a 1962 409 bellhousing. Other than that, he put in new springs and clips for everything. I know he is beside himself, I know he tried and adjusted to he was blue in the face, but left it like this because he knew I wanted the car back. I know you guys are the experts and I guess I should of asked on here before I stepped off the cliff. Any info you can provide, I would greatly appreciate.http://www.348-409.com/forum/images/smilies/doh.gif
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bill409mac
08-07-2008, 10:46 AM
Sorry posted in wrong forum. I am re-posting in the correct one!!

BARRYS770
08-08-2008, 09:35 AM
What type of pressure plate was installed? Diaphram or Borg & Beck? As I recall, there are 2 different throw out bearings, depending on which pressure plate is used. I believe that a short bearing was used with the diaphram style & a longer one was used with the Borg & Beck style. Also, there were different pivot ball lengths available. Someone who's familiar with the muscle cars should be able to sort this out for you.

Barry

1958 impala
08-09-2008, 03:06 AM
Bill
Was car a standard originally? If not: first thing I would ck is the clutch pedal they are different from one year to next or as stated before they do make 2 different thro outs.with new clutch and pressure plate you should be able to have 1 inch freeplay and clutch schould work at bottom of pedal good luck just my2cents:cheers