Wake UP Chevrolet !!!

[dq409]

Need I say more !!

New Mustang (http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2003/01/nextmustang/index.shtml)

[dq409]

I hate to say this,,,,,,,,,, I could own one of these !!!!!

AGHHHHHHHHHHH !!!! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/q/bawling.gif

[Loafer409]

How this one



http://www.allpar.com/cars/me412.html

[Fran Preve]

Hate to say it DQ, but me too. Dark Green, Bullet wheels. If GM cared they'd be building a similar version of the Camaro instead of an overweight underpowered kinda pick up.

[dq409]

Soooo,,,,, do you think F**d got wind of this concept Camaro and beat GM at building it?

Same concept in building a late 60`s style retro muscle car?

Gm is a sleep at the wheel !!!!!!!!http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0312phr_fifthgen_01_s.jpg http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0312phr_fifthgen_02_s.jpg http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0312phr_fifthgen_04_s.jpg

[bobs409]

Keep dreamin guys! Cars will never be what they were, ever! Even if they do actually "find" some designers that know a little about what a car "should" look like, it will be loaded with plastic, little mysterious black boxes and computer everything. And it will cost $60,000+ What a joke! :mad:


Old Chevy's rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p

[Bungy]

I have never owned anything but Chevys my entire life, not even another GM product. But I have to agree with DQ, I could own one of these. Anyone know what the price on these is going to be?
I predict sales on the new stangs are going to be through the roof. And what does Chevy have to compete? Oh Yeh, Nothing:cry

[impalaragpat]

Ford took the styling cues from the only Blue Oval Ive ever owned.
New one would look great in garage next to this.

[Fran Preve]

Six cylinder at $20,000, GT (v8) $25,000 and up. This where Chevy lost it. Ford built mostly 6 cylinder and then GT's, GM sold Z-28's and Trans Am's, and whatever 6's they could, they NEVER pushed the V-6 Camaro the way Ford pushed 6's. Then figure the dealers pushed the $900 dollar T-top, "you GOTTA have THAT!". I know, I bought a 1995 Z-28, no T tops, 4000 miles GM PEP car, list $23,000 I paid 17. Year and a half later, 7000 miles, dealer didn't want it, ofered me $11,000, took me almost THREE months in the SPRING to sell it. For $13,500, yeah, 2 years later, and SEVEN thousand miles, for almost 1/2 the price of anew one!. What made it hard to sell?. Partly no T tops, mostly high insurance. This was a car that ran 14.20's when it had 5000 miles on it, COMPLETELY stock with the "dog" 2.73 gears.

Ford never offered a decent Mustang GT with an automatic, they were dogs compared to the very quick 5 speeds. But Ford pushed 6's on girls (mostly) and out sold Firebird/Camaro 2 to 1. Ford could justify 100,000 units a year, GM couldn't 50,000 F/C's. And the Z's with their almost MANDITORY T tops cost thousands more than Mustang GT's. How important were T tops?. Ford never offered it. Byt they were high profit for GM and the dealers.

The new Mustang will start at $20,000 and go up from there, figure as high as $35,000. But the V-8 GT starts at about $25,000. GM hasn't got a plant available to produce 100,000 F body's, even if they had the car. Then they'd have to price it close to the Mustang. Instead we'll get the new Pontiac Solstice, starts at 20k, maxes at high 20'.s, and soon a coupe version. I think they'll both be sweet rear drivers, and not priced outlandishly. But they won't have the *alls of a Mustang GT.

[dq409]

Bob you are right,,,,,,,,, but,,, one problem with the new cars is the lack of style and excitement of driving them that has turned off most of us from buying any of the new cars.

In the last few years Chrysler has lead the pack in styling with the retro look and the horsepower of some of their cars.
But to most the good styled cars are too small and under powered or WAY too much money !! see Viper,,,,

The Mustang on the other hand came around in the last generation with a car that looked good , had some balls and was priced for the normal Joe !

AND they could be powered up with bolt-on HiPo goodies !! Someting they stoled from GM,,,,, butttt,,,, GM did away with all that years ago.

GM did a decient job giving some of their cars power but made them harder to make HiPo up-grades and the Camaro was also too big.

WE all know what it`s like at the races when the line of late model Muskrats burn up the 1/4 in a near stock street version !!
The call to eat the 5-0 !!

And YES ,,,,,,, This Mustang will fly off the showroom floors !!!

[bobs409]

If this new Mustang is going to start off at $20,000 then why is the Thunderbird so expensive? What is that, about $50,000? (and fugly in my opinion)

As for Chrysler, sure in the beginning their "different" design did catch the eye but only because it was different than the rest. How many PT cruisers can one stand to look at now-a-days? I'd be happy never to see one of those mini hearses again. :D Or the front end styling of their trucks. (that mack truck look is getting old to me-it's even showing a bit on their minivans and cars now) Viper, Prowler, maybe but who can afford one??? I can think of alot better "real" cars to spend that kind of money on.

You guys that like this new stuff won't agree with me but I think it's all garbage! :D If ya wants to throw yer money away, go right ahead, I can't stop you but don't think you'll have something special after a few years or expect to get a return on your investment unless you live to be about 200. :p (I know, it's not always about investing)


I rest my case...

[threeimpalas]

The new Thunderbird is priced high because it's considered a low-production, "desirable" luxury car. Same reason why the Corvette costs $50k. It's target market is the wealthy and partly the reason they can get away with it.

[1958 impala]

NICE LOOKING CARS.
BUT I THINK ILL STICK WITH MY OLD CLUNKER.
I DO AGREE THAT CHEVROLET NEEDS TO WAKE UP THE YOUNGER GEN.NEEDS A GENERATION OF NOT SO CLASSIC CARS. :cheers

[Ed51]

Chevrolet should take this Holden-Pontiac-GTO and go through it with radio deletes, plain bench seats.wind up windows,no a/c and so on. Make it an LS1 with good optional trannys and axle ratios. Even dog-dish hub caps! With the price low enough they would sell a lot of them. Lots of volume. Just my $.02.

[Fran Preve]

Three's got it. Bob it's about what you buy for an everyday driver. It's one thing to have a toy to drive when it's nice out, but cranking 10-15-20,000 miles a year in it?. Sorry, maybe I'm spoiled but a NEW car is nice to have too. You drive what YOU want, but maybe a Mustang (just example) for your wife. Then there's those who have kids. All in the demographics.

I agree that the PT, which was once THE car to have, is now worn seriously thin. The next one, which will take the "retro" look into the 20th century will be popular, but not like the first one.

GM has a "retro" suburban coming that looks like crap, the lousy SSR was a mistake, The Malibu Maxx is neat but the styling doesn't leap out at you.

Face it, Ford pulled a rabbit out of the hat, and GM regretably hasn't got ANYTHING to compete against it. It's like when they dropped out of the full size market in 1996, they just GAVE it all to Ford!. Now they gave the sporty car market to them too.

Then again, Bob and I are up here where it snows, we got a maybe 5 or 6 month season, if we like in the south and could drive a car year around it might be different.

[348NUT]

Now that you mention it Fran; I'm starting to think alot more like Fred.;) Why the hey does anyone live up here! And more importantly, why do I still live here? -29 below this am and we're trying to run 30 or so pieces of equipment. I gotta get a new job. period!

p.s. Does anyone want to buy a very nice little forest products co. in the heart of God's country? :D