Dave says "See Ya!":

[IgnitionMan]

Because of the postings by MK11SS, I have decided to leave this board.

I will NOT be called a lair by anyone, it just will not happen, and since he has chosen to do just that, it is my duty to leave, as I am, and always have been a totally honest person. That is the way I live my life, and that's that, no quarter given.

I do not need a person like him, whom contributes only useless and idiotic info, it just isn't in my gameplan. Neither is telling falsehoods, as he implies and claims.

I heve better things to do with my time than to take his crap and flames, and that is the real deal of it.

I have the greatest respect for those here, even more so for the courage of Fran, whom, when he and I disdagreed, didn't get into personal flames, but remain fellow W engine brothers. Thank you to you, sir.

MK11SS just isn't that kind of person, and I have NO respect for him and/or his posts.

My very best wishes and regards to everyone here, save one.

No response is necessary, I won't be back to read/discuss/answer them.

[bobs409]

Dave,

I hope you'll change your mind about leaving. Just take some time off if you need to and come back later.

I've had troubles on different forums too and it's something that will happen from time to time when lots of people are together. (especially without being face to face) Heck, you and I have had an arguement already over points! LOL

While anyone is free to leave at any time, I just ask that you think it over first. Give some time to cool down first. I think you'll find that things will work out.

First off, expect arguements and disagreements to happen and be prepared for it. It happened on almost every board I've been on. It does no good to get mad (easy for me to say).

I know of no one here that I'd like to see leave. We all bring something different to the table and I'd hate lose even 1 of our members. Before I met you guys, I actually thought I knew something about 409s! :p

Now everyone shake hands and get back to business! :)



Now taking orders for the new "348-409.com boxing gloves!"


Bob

[Fran Preve]

What Bob said.

[348NUT]

Your makin' me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. You did mean you wanted me around here to didn't you? :D

It's easy for me to get along with you guys cause I admit I don't know much about this stuff! :p and if someone says I'm wrong; they're probably right. :D

Bob I sure admire you for the way you handle these situations! I'd probably be tempted to throw my hands in the air and call the whole thing off! I've said this before and I'll say it again; You're a good man Charlie Brown! :) NUT

[bobs409]

Aaron,

The funny thing is I went through that cycle in the past. What I learned from it is that I ended up hating myself and alot of the members thought less of me for it. Not to mention all the apologizing I had to do! :D I vowed to myself that I wasn't going to let that happen anymore.

The main thing is not to over react! Things like this are gonna happen and there's not much to stop it. We're all adults here and I know that we can work it out.

If you find yourself in the middle of a "situation", take some time to cool down before replying. I think you'll be glad you did.

I don't think anyone here really wants to hurt anyone else, it sometimes can sound that way by reading words and not hearing the persons voice. Posts can be mis-understood that way.

[Fran Preve]

WE'RE WHAT!!!!, ADULTS?. Oh YEAH!, since WHEN!.

Richard and I went at it for a while, then decided it was childish (adultish?) and now we're discussing things much more civil. Actually I regretted when he left, I'm learning from him and thinking about things I wouldn't have if he wasn't around. That said, I hope at least SOME of what I say gets him thinking too.

Now that Walker is sitting at my right hand maybe he's picking things up too. Is Richard at my left?. Or am I on the left and Richard in the middle and Walker on the right?. Ponder, ponder................................

[tripowerguy]

I wish that there was some bit of wisdom that I could say to bring you back to the forum. This I do know that you never call anyone a liar because unless you have a pornographic memory, all things are not the same as they really happened to each person. There are things that I swear were a certain way, carburators for certain years and I was wrong. Dave more than anything I hope you can have a change of heart and for oursake please come back. One thing I've learned with age is put your mind in gear before your mouth or in our case fingers. Is what we are about to say going to be uplifting or drag somebody down. When you drag somebody down you go down yourself. Most of us have knowledge in one field or another and it is wonderful if we share that knowledge. I don't think anyone likes someone to tell them how dumb they are just so you can look smart. Please think it over Dave and come back.:) Roy

[MRHP]

Iman, I hope you will rethink your decision. From reading your posts and talking with you on the phone you are a wealth of information. You also have lead an interesting life. I hope to speak with you again. sincerely Brian Lambert.

[fatride]

Holymoly Roy, we have to get together at the W convention! With your state of mind I think we must be "CLONES"! Don't worry about "Ignitionman" He didn't really leave! He'll be lookin in to see what were saying about him.
:rolleyes:

[tripowerguy]

Fatride, I threw that in hoping to lighten it up a little. :D Roy

[bjburnout]

IgnitionMan
Please don't leave.
You are a big part of this site and everyone has learned a lot from your input.
I especially enjoyed the technical aspects of some of your earlier posts.
Take some time off from your daily ritual of checkin here (I know it's daily for me, sometimes 2 and 3 times) and hopefully you enjoy us once again.

BJ

ps - my ol cat Rusty just jumped up on the desk when he heard the keys typin'............that's a good sign, he wants you back as well.......

[Rockfish39]

Dave,
Jim Miller (especially), and others on the Forum, were kind enough to write me email right about the time I got into scrapes with DQ , Aubrey, and '09PWR, and got my feelings hurt over being called a thief...

What they told me was this:

Basically, these guys were good guys in real life. They just forget thier manners sometimes, because it is a very easy thing to do when on a keyboard and not in person.

IN TURN, it is easy for us to strike back, as well, for the very same reason.

I have no axe to grind with them, in fact I think that things have settled down nicely and I really would like to meet all three of them face to face.

I may just have a beer and get along just fine... At 6'4 and 235, (and I'm not fat...) Im not too worried...Unless they are carrying weapons, of course. :p NOTE TO PHIL REED: NO FIREARMS, or ASSAULT KNIVES AT THE CONVENTION.....

DQ once said: "the impressions that we have of one another here, will be different when we all meet in person." I think that he is correct in that asessment.

Some of the people who think that they wont like one another, will... Some of the people who think that they will like one another, wont.


"It is the nature of man to conflict" Khan


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[dq409]

Dave,,, I hope you read this as I was away when all this happened.

WE WANT YOU HERE !!

You are an asset to this forum !!
If you leave the ones that lose are all us members and the ones that win are the few that caused the problem.

Please reconsider and keep us informed with your expertice and knowledge !!

There will be a big hole here where you belong,,,,,dq

[bubbletop61]

Ditto to DQ's comments, the gang stands to learn a tremendous amount from you Iman. So....c'mon down!
Sincerely
Gar

[threeimpalas]

What ever happened to the old saying "Stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"?

[SS425HP]

You know, you have asked a very good question. I have asked that myself, a lot in the last 10 years. Seems like we have gotten to the point that someone is always looking for someone to say the wrong thing, and file a law suit. I would never think the Attorney crowd would have anything to do with this;) That would be unthinkable. :rolleyes: Nowadays, no one is responsible for anything they do or say. Someone or something else is responsible, and owes me big bucks. Everyones way to get rich. And, the damned courts allow it. Even seem to encourage it. No wonder insurance is out of sight.
Sorry, what was the question??????????????????:(

Fred

[bobs409]

Ignitionman wrote and asked to be removed so I just terminated his account. Some people take things too seriously I guess. I couldn't talk him back into joining us again.

I left all his posts in place though for everyones benefit as most of his posts were very helpful and will be good for future reference. (searches)


Bob