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Impalaguru
12-12-2005, 08:42 PM
What ever happened to the Z-11 powered fast-back Novas? Are any of them still arround? I don't think I've ever heard anything about the whereabouts of any of them.
Ross

jim_ss409
12-12-2005, 11:21 PM
Here's a picture.

RCE1962
12-12-2005, 11:31 PM
I never knew those existed. I learn something new here everyday.:bow

RCE1962

JIMS409
12-13-2005, 03:52 PM
Here's a shot of Platt's Z-11 Fastback:brow Great looking machine...

Impalaguru
12-13-2005, 04:08 PM
Great pics, guys!! I wonder how the roof was made? It almost looks like an AMC Marlin roof was grafted on. Wouldn't it be cool to make one and fit it with an '09 stroker!?:brow
Ross

dq409
12-13-2005, 06:16 PM
Kinda looks like a Baracuda roof.
Would be great to see it at several angles !!,,dq

dq409
12-13-2005, 06:22 PM
I spoke too soon !! Found pictures and history ,,, Should have known NovaResources would have it !!

In 1963, Chevrolet created three fastback Novas for road race competition. The Novas were all convertibles pulled from the regular production line. They were then shipped to the Corvette plant for the addition of fiberglass parts. The doors, inner panels, front fenders, hood and both front and rear bumpers were all 'glass. The new roof and fastback was also made of fiberglass and bonded to the metal. The fastback covered what would have been the trunk lid and blocked all access to the trunk area from the outside.

After a 1963 Corvette independent rear suspension was also added, the cars were shipped to Bill Thomas in California. Chevrolet also shipped the "Mystery Motors", that later ended up with Smokey Yunick, to Bill to be installed in the Novas. Bills job was to install the engines and setup the suspension for road racing. Before the Novas could be completed, GM put a ban on all factory racing.

GM ordered the cars crushed but Bill worked out a deal to keep the cars as payment for his work. The engines were sent back to Chevrolet and then to Smokey Yunick in Florida. He then sold one Nova to Fritz Callier, a Chevrolet dealer in Dallas,to be drag raced. Another one was sold to a Los Angeles Chevrolet dealer who drag raced it for less than two months before crashing it and totally destroying it. The third was sold to Alan Green Chevrolet in Seattle.

Alan Green also drag raced the Nova with driver Dick Milner and crew chief Tom Foster. Green, Milner and Foster raced the Nova at drag strips throughout the northwest United States and western Canada from 1963 until 1967. During one race the fastback roof blew off at 155 mph. The team then ventilated the rear section to keep the car from wanting to fly above 150 mph.

These fastback Novas sport a roofline similar to, but predating, that of the Plymouth Barracuda, AMC Marlin, 1966 Dodge Charger and about half of the late-1960's-era Fords. Fastbacks were popular with buyers in the later 60's, but aerodynamic efficiency on the race track was the main concern of Chevrolet engineers. Ironically, even though they were built to be road raced, all three of the fastback Novas spent almost their entire racing lives on the drag strip.


Link and other pictures,,,Scroll down to the bottom,,,,dq http://www.novaresource.org/history.htm

fatride
12-13-2005, 06:28 PM
Isn't this site great! :clap

4onthefloor
12-13-2005, 08:20 PM
These Thomas cars were cool...interesting that Hubert Platts car has a 65 front end and what looks to be trim mouldings on it..unless they are painted on..

SS425HP
12-13-2005, 09:23 PM
That was Huston Platt's car. Hubert drove Fords. Huston drove Chevys. Brothers, but different car lovers, I guess. Huston was later involved in an accident. Don't know what happened after that. Hubert stayed in racing, and is still involved somewhat, today. I know he has been inducted into several halls of fame.

Fred

4onthefloor
12-13-2005, 09:48 PM
Good eyes !! I never heard of Huston...his bro got all the press...

oil4kids
12-13-2005, 09:55 PM
heres a photo of Dick Harrell vs CKC Fritz Callier's FAstback Nova in the far lane

dq409
12-13-2005, 10:07 PM
heres a photo of Dick Harrell vs CKC Fritz Callier's FAstback Nova in the far lane


Man,,, That turns the ol` grapes to raisins!!!!!! :eek:

SS425HP
12-13-2005, 11:14 PM
Dick had the trunk loaded up on that one. The consumate showman. Gave the crowd a thrill, win or lose. But, seldom lost.

Fred

MK IISS
12-15-2005, 08:00 AM
When the black H. Platt car was updated with a '65 front end the Z11 427 was replaced with a Mk IV.

jim_ss409
12-16-2005, 12:04 AM
Here's another one.

odie15
01-03-2006, 09:22 PM
Here is a picture of a 1963 Mystery Motor for one of the fastback Nova's

Ronnie Russell
01-03-2006, 10:40 PM
Okay odie, enough is enough!!!!! You pop on the scene with the wildest W-head Ive ever seen and then for good measure , you just happen to have a 63 Mystery motor???? The surroundings are similar for both motors. That means you either have the mystery motor or have had it in your shop. I can tell that you value your privacy, and I can respect that, but it wont hurt to throw us a few bones. How about a little info?? the mystery motor looks ready to run, maybe Nostalgia car? :dunno :dunno

odie15
01-04-2006, 10:36 AM
Ronnie, The Mystery Motor in the picture is going into one of the remaining fastback nova's. The current owner is restoring it back to road race config. He plans on vintage racing the car mostly on the west coast. This motor is one of two that we have built for him. You can view some more photo's at
http://www.toeperf.com/427mystery.htm . We tried to build these on the mild side to maintain reliability.(replacement blocks, heads, intakes are pretty hard to find). On the dyno they made 569 hp at 6000 rpm and 546 ft-lbs at 4500 rpm.

Ronnie Russell
01-04-2006, 03:14 PM
Tony, Thanks for the reply. I spent an hour on your web-site and am in awe of your operation. We appreciate your posts and pictures and look forward to any communication in the future. Hope the 348 wasnt your last W-head. California is such a big market that I hope you will build some "big" 409s in the future. Thanks again,,,,,,

wrench
01-04-2006, 05:46 PM
Ronnie, The Mystery Motor in the picture is going into one of the remaining fastback nova's. The current owner is restoring it back to road race config. He plans on vintage racing the car mostly on the west coast. This motor is one of two that we have built for him. You can view some more photo's at
http://www.toeperf.com/427mystery.htm . We tried to build these on the mild side to maintain reliability.(replacement blocks, heads, intakes are pretty hard to find). On the dyno they made 569 hp at 6000 rpm and 546 ft-lbs at 4500 rpm.

How do ya'll feel about me hosting those photos on my site? Those are great! I've never seen such detail. I'm convinced now that I saw one of these in a white 55 Chevy with fiberglass panels named The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. I've gotta search for that guy again! The exhaust manifolds stuck in my mind - very different!

Thanks!

raymar58454
01-06-2006, 10:41 PM
Gee ODIE, looks like you got Ronnie all fired up. Three exclamation signs, keep it up and he'll be using CAPITOL letters.:rofl :rofl :rofl
Ray

oil4kids
01-07-2006, 05:33 PM
http://www.toeperf.com/427mystery.htm

Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!

small block oil pump on a big block 90 degree W motor

real 2 bolt armor steel main caps

what a piece of History!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

real mystery motor heads !!!!!!!!

4onthefloor
01-07-2006, 06:58 PM
Unreal !!! Never seen so many 0- casting numbers in one place...that water pump is really odd looking...