348-409 Hei

[W Head]

I have my distributor boxed and ready to send to Ignitionman for a HEI conversion and noticed E-Bay add from Show Cars for a 348-409 HEI for $169.00. Phoned and talked with them, said dist made in Australia. Asked if he had in stock, said yes but they had to modify for 348-409. Said "thought the dist was for 348-409. He said had to add spacer. Told him I would pass:nono1: , anyone purchased one of these or know anything about them. :scratch

W Head
59 El Camino 348-3,2s
59 Impala 409-2,4s

[Ronnie Russell]

w head, Glad you made the phone call. Ive seen those on e-bay and wondered about them. I dont remember seeing anything about an adapter in the ad. Showcars should have all the info. on that distributor. There is no reason for any doubt as to what it fits and what it does not fit. I have said good things about Showcars in the past, but there should be no indecision about this part. Ignitionman would be the safe way to get a quality part and not have to worry about quality.

[dq409]

Ditto ! Dave is where I would put my money, O,,, I have already !!:brow
Quality stuff done right !!,,dq

[models916]

I ordered one this week, looks like the Accell housing with an adjustable collar. May be here on Monday. Got the DHL tracking, left Mpls on last night at midnight. I like the adjustable collar, cuz' I got milled heads and manifold. If it looks like junk, I'll just send it back. There is another one on ebay (not ShowCars) with the 348/409 housing and no adjuster. $149.00 says he has 4 of them.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy-HEI-for-348-409_W0QQitemZ8036239671QQcategoryZ33690QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

pics are
Other guys, Acell, MSD, Show Cars brand in that order. I talked to Jegs about the MSD, it would appear to come with that copper colored jacket.

[dq409]

Thats too bad,,,:rolleyes:

[Ronnie Russell]

Models, Thats good news . You will be able to inspect and at least give us a report. Bad or good, it will be good to know. BTW , are you close to firing the new motor? Did you decide to use a zinc additive or race oil for your break-in? Thanks,,,,,,,,

[fatride]

Oh Boy, here we go. We all know that there is only one good ignition system on this here site. :nono1:

[SS425HP]

Ray----------------:nono1:

[dq409]

Thats too bad,,,:rolleyes:

Oh Boy, here we go. We all know that there is only one good ignition system on this here site. :nono1:

Heee heee heeee I knew that would get to you !!!!:rofl :rofl


I`m sure it will work just fine,,,

[Bam59]

i have a msd dist. and it does not have that copper sleeve or any sleeve it looks like stock but the oil ring is cut all the way around. it works great.:dunno

[Ronnie Russell]

Mike, I think W Head is sending his distributor to iginitionman for HEI conversion so he can retain original looking distributor. In my humble opinion, there are several good distributors available, especially if an adapter collar is used. But if someone wants to buy the best, it would have to be the MSD dist. specifically made for the w-head motor. Just my opinion.

[IgnitionMan]

"We all know that there is only one good ignition system on this here site".

Well, you did say "GOOD".

We all do know one fact for certain, that there is only ONE complete and total ignoramus on this site, it is Fathead.

The distributors pictured are manufactured in China, for very low costs, and marketed as Pro-Comp in Australia. Good luck.

[Bam59]

that ignoramus fathead has helped me out alot.:nono1:

[MK IISS]

Mike: Not to worry...we all know fatride is a good guy. Just consider the source of the attacks against him. In my opinion anyone who would make up sh*t like this and expect people to belive it has several bulbs on his porch burnt out:

"Just wish I had the opportunity to get that all aluminum W engine out of the Special Projects Division. I figure that if I asked my boss, Zora may have just given it to me...."

In my opinion Mr. ignitionman and Mr. '63 belair COPO car are members of the same club.

[dq409]

In my opinion Mr. ignitionman and Mr. '63 belair COPO car are members of the same club.

Now guys,,,:hug

I would say this is way wrong,, Dave does have a ton of experience, puts out a great product and does know his stuff where as Mr. COPO don`t know jack about jack.

Fathead,,:eek: I mean Ray fatride is just a big lovable teddy bear !!!:rofl

It`s time we stop bashing each other on this site and just bite our tongues when it comes to other members maybe with the exception of the COPO idiot who asks for it !!!!

Lets move in a different direction here, someone has to be the first to stop the bashing,,dq

[MK IISS]

I was not referring to ignitionman's expertise with ignition systems and I believe everyone knows this. He is an expert.

It's all the other crap/claims and making stuff up as he goes along just to win an argument. He has a long history of this. He has been on and and then off another well know chevy forum many times because he just can't get along with people. All this mixed with disparaging remarks such as: "fathead you are a raving, flaming idiot"... and mis-pronouncing/spelling members names on purpose such as "Skippy" and constantly running down vendors/mfgs which is a violation of the rules of this forum. Another member told me he wanted to post his experience with Pontiacs on the Pontiac thread but wasn't going to do so because he didn't want his info. to get attacked by ignitionman. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone, it's just the manner in which he does it.

Not to worry, I'm done with this. I've stated my opinion which I have the right to do. I'm not going to get in a p*ssing match with Ignitionman like some other members have. I believe the following old saying is true.

"If you get into a wrestling match with a pig you are going to get sh*t all over you."

[Bam59]

Richard, i'm not worried. and i'm sure he is very good at ignition systems.
i WAS NOT putting him down in anyway. it is to bad that a person must act that way. dq. is wright lets move on to newer and better things:hug

[MK IISS]

Mike: your statement: "it is to bad that a person must act that way."

I betcha it will continue, but you and dq are right. Let's move on.

[chevymusclecars]

Really nothing changes with this guy in October he made the post below, as usual slamming the people on the forumn and manufactures. Back then he was going to take his ignition parts and run home never to talk to us again, at least the second time he has promised. I really doubt that he is so superior to anyone else on the site that we need to accept his abuse. I have met Fatride and found Ray to be a nice person and can see that he takes a lot of pride in his car, I can't see how the personal attacks by IGNITONMAN can be found acceptable by anyone. :dunno

OK, with just at 400 conversions to the Ready to Quits, I guess that means I am full if ****, huh. Just because YOURS still runs, don't discount another opinion, from a person that fixes them EVERY day.

That's the same bull you shot at me that caused me to stop posting before.

For the record, yes I do make HEI and MSD conversions, not just for W engines, but for many different dists, from GM to Ford, DuCoil, MSD Ready to Run and trigger only dists, Accel, Mallory and older stuff as well.

That said, I was approached by a 30 year friend that both races his Mustang and builds hot rods for a living, to fix his RtR once and for all, because he had had it back to MSD five times, with same results, it kept breaking.

So, I did what I always do, I took his apart, found a really crappy module, and the same magnetic pickup I use, with way too short wires. What did I do, I changed the pickup, to the same MSD 8466-1 pickup, to get the wires wires long enough to route out the body, just like an MSD trigger only dist has, and then made a remote mounted HEI module and wiring.

I did it to 14 others that had those Ready to Quits running out of Muldoon's shop, and so far, NONE of them have had problems since, along with about 385 others I have domne the same conversion to.

It is too bad a few of you are so narrow minded with blinders that you choose to not believe someone in the ignition system business. I'm glad I can see what is good and bad, and fix it, that's been the way I have been all my life. I don't do massive amounts of these dists, but enough to know a bad part when I see it, and the RtR module is both a bad one and placed in the middle of the dist, soldered to the pickup, not a good deal at all, and it isn't even a high energy system, just a TCBI. Nice idea, crap moduile. MSD did this before, with another earlier design, had a blue module placed under the body, very high failure rate, I do a conversion to HEI for those as well, crucify me for it as usual, too.

I will say that barring two MSD products, they are the best systems available,m for racing and very heavily modified street engine use, but not needed for the average stock to moderately modified engines. Great products, recommended by me many tiomnes, EXCEPT yhe Ready to Quit module and RED Made in Mexico Blaster II coils.

I knew Fatride would chime in with his flames and crap aimed at me, so, see all you later, last time. I don't need this, and his bull. Glad his works, it's a fluke.

BTW, NOBODY is suggesting, or forcing anyone to use my conversions and/or suggestions, NO-ONE, ESPECIALLY ME. Fatride expects you to do as he bids, though, that is for sure. Sure sounds like he doesn't want any of you to get ALL the facts. Too bad.

Don't bother responding, I won't be back to read it anyway.

[4onthefloor]

You know I was watching this train wreck but I thought you guys all knew each other and he was just messing with you...now I remember him being on other sites being a jerk. Ignitionman...you could be the best ignition guy in the country...but I wouldn't let you set my points with a childish namecalling attitude like yours...in fact...you probably ain't even that good. Why would ANYONE give you any business.:nono1:

[models916]

I am planning on using just the trigger part and the housing for my MSD6 box. We'll see how it goes. On the other side of the question, when you get a GM W distributor rebuilt, does the shaft get turned or new bushings installed? Never had one done. May end up going that way. I did not like the fit of my SBC MSD billet in a Late Great Chevy Adaptor, although it seemed to work perfectly. As for the China built stuff, I have a 2005 Honda 90 built in china and the quality is outstanding. Maybe because Honda is involved. I will keep you posted.

[Daddys409Belair]

:rofl Look what you started W head!:rofl

I think you did this on purpose just to watch the "sparks" fly!!!

No pun intended ignition guy!:D

[W Head]

Hey, All I wanted was some information before I sent off my distributor. Did not mean for anyone to have pee off contest. You know, this is exactly the reason I do not post or reply to more posts than I do. About half the time someone makes you out to be a dumb *** and says you can't even spell 094, I mean 904 oh heck 409.:doh Oh well, I still love this site!

W Head
59 El Camino 348-3,2s
59 Impala 409-2,4s

[dq409]

Hey, All I wanted was some information before I sent off my distributor. Did not mean for anyone to have pee off contest. You know, this is exactly the reason I do not post or reply to more posts than I do. About half the time someone makes you out to be a dumb *** and says you can't even spell 094, I mean 904 oh heck 409. Oh well, I still love this site!
W, I know with all this BS that goes on from time to time you can get a little nervous about posting but I would not let that deter you from posting any questions on the forum. Over all we all try and avoid the conflicts but some times a few of us get into a pissing match that gets out of hand.
I too used to get into these and from time to time still do but I think I learned a while back that it really is counter productive to this site and to other members.

I think we all need to take a good look at what this does to OUR forum and the message it portrays to others that visit here about the quality of the members we have here.

I have been biting my tongue so much lately that is just a bloody stump !
But for the welfare of this site I do it.

Calling some one out for straight out lies is one thing but to argue and bash each other over a dispute that can never be settled by personal views is something else.

I think it`s time to stop all the bashing now.
Just reading what W has posted should show that others too must feel this way.

We have the best members with the most knowledge about our cars then any other site out there so why detract from that with all the petty BS?,,

I`ll answer W`s question by PM to avoid any conflicts which is wrong but may be necessary in this case,,dq

[gearhead409]

i had a member tell me last summer to not get too up set about any post on here. he said sit back and take it all in and i have. it's been fun reading and interesting to say the least. you will soon learn who knows what they are talking about and who is just showing their ***. please don't be intimidated by some on here, i for one would be interested in your comments and opinions. our member that give me this advise is on here every day,is a quite person, dosn't post much, takes it all in and is running in the 10s with his 62. goes to show the guys that can really make these 09s run aren't on here telling the whole world how smart they are. hang in there W head!

[JIMS409]

C'mon guys....:hug

[Ronnie Russell]

I have also heard people say. " I dont participate in discussions because I dont want to sound stupid. Have heard others say " I dont ask questions because I dont want to sound dumb." If those are reasons not to post, then I should have never opened my mouth. I probably lead the way in "dumb questions", But what Ive found is 99% of the membership of this forum are doggone good people that only want to help. I would like to see more participate. The more the merrier. For those who want to become more active, jump in there people!!! I want let you sound dumb. As I have said a thousand times, I dont believe there is such a thing as a dumb question if you are in the search for knowledge.:cheers

[Bam59]

w head, do not stop posting a ? or giving answers, these little wars of words
sometimes have lots of info. if i had a dollar for all the info i have gotten here i'd have a fleet of 59's. :cheers

[models916]

Got the distributor tonight. Billet alluminum housing, CNC machined and polished. Half inch steel shaft with Ball bearings. Adjustable vacuum advance canister. Chromolly Steel bottom Gear, for use with cast and Steel Billet Cams. I took the electronics out to hook up to the magnetics for my MSD6 box. Cap has brass inserts. Says stock module and coil good to 7,500? For $169, I have no complaints. Fits in the block nice and snug and the adjustable collar works great for me with the milled parts I have. I give the mechanicals a thumbs up. Electronics? I know nothing about it. Does have a great warrantee and is completely returnable.

http://www.procompelectronics.com/Files/1.html

[fatride]

Models, keep us updated on the dist. We need more choices for the W engine to keep the price in line. MSD, although a fine unit is a bit pricey.

[dq409]

I have also heard people say. " I dont participate in discussions because I dont want to sound stupid. Have heard others say " I dont ask questions because I dont want to sound dumb." :cheers

gezz if that were the case I would have to stop posting!!

Even I ,,, the smarest guy hare get my foot in my month all the tine !!!:stooges

[fatride]

gezz if that were the case I would have to stop posting!!

Even I ,,, the smarest guy hare get my foot in my month all the tine !!!:stooges


I concur.:rolleyes:

[models916]

I checked a Holden Ausi site and found the general talk about Procomp to be that it is reliable. Not sure how long they have been around. Some saying they have used for 5 years with no problems. All of their stuff looks like american products. (MSD, Holley, Edelbrock, etc.) maybe they license the designs or use the same tooling.

[Ronnie Russell]

models, I have used procomp dists. for 5 yrs in a variety of small blocks. Bought the first one for $59. The co. I bought from offered two numbers,, $59 for -made in China--$99 for made in America. They have increased in price a little in the last year. I could not find any differance in the two with the naked eye. Both advertised 50,000 volt coil and good module. Have 4 yrs service in a dirt-track car on the -made in a
america- dist. No problems. Have two of the _made in China- dist in street cars and no problems from them either. I remember taking the Chineese dist from the box and asking myself, " how can they sell it for that?" I dont know, but they sure look good and perform good for me. Im sure their quality will get bashed by the "experts" but what works,,,,,works.

[IgnitionMan]

Good luck with the Pro-Comp junk.

And, with that, your choices are now limited, as I just won't convert another W dist from anyone on this site, just way too much animosity and bull**** from others here who haven't EVER used my products, and simply don't know about the real junk that is out there, but they spew all kinds of crap about my products and me.

By the way, all you self proclaimed know it alls, I got three Pro-Comp's to redo this last weekend from the Long Beach swap meet, crap that failed right after installation, and was DENIED warrantee by Pro-Comp, typical Peter bull. Nice looking doesn't make it work right, or live. I get failed Pro-Comps, just like Ready to Quits, all the time to strtaighten out.

And, to the person that said I make this stuff up, F*** Y** if YOU cant stand the truth, a**hole.

And now, go ahead and flame away, that seems to be all some of you do here.

[models916]

What's with that? Personal choice is dear to me. Should be to everybody. I will never knock anybody for their personal choice. Even if I disagree with it. I make lots of wrong choices in this HOBBY. That's half the fun and challenge to me. If somebody doesn't like it, too bad.

[MK IISS]

quote: "F*** Y** if you can't stand the truth, a** hole."

You forgot my horse.

[MK IISS]

"they spew all kinds of crap about my products..."

[Ronnie Russell]

IgnitionMan, Am I one of the "self proclaimed know it alls?" because I relate my experience with Pro-comp dists. Had I had a bad experience with Pro-comp, I would have relayed that fact also. Would that have made mea "know it all?". Now you say you refuse to do business with us and our choices are now limited. Yes, you are right. We can choose any ignition system in the world, but we cant have yours. I dont know how our engines will keep running now that we dont have you to buy from. I dont know much about the internal combustion engine, but I do know something about human nature. With your ill demeanor, egomania, classless personality, and ignorance of how to deal with people, it is amazing to me you find any business at all. Now you have alienated the very people who may have been a customer. If my lawnmower needed a replacement ignition part, and you were the only outlet in the world, I would buy a herd of sheep. Im not sure what your problem is, but it is never too late to seek help.

[IgnitionMan]

That means you now have a number of choices for this type of product, but you now no longer have mine.

Too bad a very small few people here have to do what the Democrats in government do, spin the truth back at the one who says it just like it is, attempting to get others to believe their untruths. They call me a liar, when it just isn't true.

Too bad as well, that now, the others here only have these very few "techs" to answer those ignition questions they have no qualifications to give on this site.

I am going back to work now, I have people that are serious about getting a better, custom, hand built HEI for their engines.

And, Fathead, a Ready to Quit ISN'T AN HEI, it is a TCBI and doesn't increase spark output, it just eliminates points. But then, you KNEW that, didn't you. You just decided to leave that info out of any flames you would fling at others, and the info you post about them.

Enjoy the Pro-Comp crap and the Ready to Quits. You have many experts here, Mk and Fat are two, they manufacture their own conversions, and know everything, have been everywhere, done everything, know everybody, just ask them. They'll spew for you. Don't expect the truth from them, just ain't gonna happen.

Ronnie, you are VERY lucky to not have had either problems with the Pro-Comp junk, and, not had to deal with Peter to get his dead stuff fixed. VERY lucky.

Robert Ehlers runs two very, very large rebuilding houses in the Los Angeles area, Custom Chrome and All Star Products, (4150 Puente Avenue, Baldwin Park, California, 91706), call him and ask him about his experiences with Peter and Pro-Comp. He'll set you straight, and he actually had direct dealings with Peter and his crap products, lots of them. (626) 960-5164, he's there in the A.M. Ask him about the others he knows of that have had the same esperiences, he has no ulterior motive, and won't give you the crap answers mk and Fat will.

Like I said, I have serious work to get back to. See ya, all.

[SS425HP]

Dave, I don't think I have seen a single post knocking your product, or your knowledge of ignition systems. The only thing I have seen is, for some reason, a need by you to knock other systems, and not being able to understand that some people have had good use out of them. You might be right in the majority of cases. It's the way you state it that seems to inflame people. There are people on here very satisfied with your products. They have said so. DQ has tried to get you a lot of business. I'm sorry you feel that you have been put upon. I know several of the guys that you seem to think flame you. They are good people. You would like them if you ever met face to face. It just seems that if anybody disagrees with you at all, you want to get in their face. Why? Accept that you can't please everybody all the time, and go on. No need to name call or flame. Just makes you look pretty bad. I'm pretty sure you are a good person, and a good person to know. I just don't understand the intolerance of a different idea.

Just think, if everyone liked the same thing, we would all be married to the same woman.

Fred

[MK IISS]

I never, ever, said anything bad about Ignitionman's products. I also never recommended another product over his. Show me where someone else has.

I admit I sometimes make stuff up. However I do it for fun and don't expect anyone to believe it. I learned to do this while attending MIT. This was, of course, before I went to work for Zora and worked on those alum Mk I engines. I sure wish Zora had given me one.

[W Head]

I have my distributor boxed and ready to send to Ignitionman for a HEI conversion and noticed E-Bay add from Show Cars for a 348-409 HEI for $169.00. Phoned and talked with them, said dist made in Australia. Asked if he had in stock, said yes but they had to modify for 348-409. Said "thought the dist was for 348-409. He said had to add spacer. Told him I would pass:nono1: , anyone purchased one of these or know anything about them. :scratch

W Head
59 El Camino 348-3,2s
59 Impala 409-2,4s


Sorry I started this, but I just ask a question, Is not that what this site is about, information?:dunno I hope Dave will still work on my dist. It's in the mail.

W Head
59 El Camino 348-3,2s
59 Impala 409-2,4s

[fatride]

[QUOTE=IgnitionMan].

Too bad a very small few people here have to do what the Democrats in government do, spin the truth back at the one who says it just like it is, attempting to get others to believe their untruths. They call me a liar, when it just isn't true.


I knew it! He's a Republican!:rolleyes:

[MK IISS]

All kidding aside, I think this a real shame. That is...it's almost unbelievable that a person could be so wacked and full of hate they can't see, admit and probably understand what they are doing to themselves.

[dunhamfield]

If anyone cares, I bought the $149.00 HEI distributor on E-BAY. I will let you guys know how it works when I get it.

[Ronnie Russell]

Terry, Sure we care. Would like to know how well it works. Thanks

[rogersimpala]

DAM
I tired of trying to read all this information

lets just all get a beer and think it over:rofl
:cheers
61 bubbletop
409-425 hp
4 speed
factory a/c
AND IM STILL RUNNING THE STOCK DIST.:doh

[Bam59]

Fathead don't you dare start a :argue: between the democrats and republicans. now that i think about it maybe you are a trouble maker:rofl

[fatride]

Fathead don't you dare start a :argue: between the democrats and republicans. now that i think about it maybe you are a trouble maker:rofl

Didn't say it was a bad thing, only that I guessed!:D

[dq409]

Fathead don't you dare start a :argue: between the democrats and republicans. now that i think about it maybe you are a trouble maker:rofl


Are you telling him not to make an A** out of himself ?? heee heee











Or just pokin` fun at them Elephants ???

[Russ348]

{Quote} Too bad a very small few people here have to do what the Democrats in government do, spin the truth back at the one who says it just like it is, attempting to get others to believe their untruths. They call me a liar, when it just isn't true.

Didn't realize the Democrats were in power. Tell us again who is spinning
the truth and attempting to get others to believe their untruths.:deal

P.S. They also don't know how to handle firearms.:takethat

[models916]

Ya know, if that Procomp distributor goes bad, I can get and entire SBC Procomp on Ebay for $59 and use the guts to repair the thing.

[Daddys409Belair]

Models-

You can buy the HEI Module, Pickup coil and a stock ignition coil for about the same price or less at any big chain parts store. The high performance parts (for over 5500 rpm) would cost you a bit more. If you're not going over 5500 rpms, I'd stick with stock parts. Some parts stores also carry the ground strap, wiring harness and built-in radio noise suppressor.

Whenever GM's HEI system goes down, I've (90% of the time) found it to be a ignition coil and/or control module. I always replace them as a set.

On another note: F**d's later electronic ignition system, Thick Film Ignition (or TFI), would always leak voltage from the pickup coil to the module (requiring both to need replacement.) I sold many a F**d TFI Module, telling the moron installing it to replace the pickup coil too, and he'd ignore my advice and come back in a month or so and end up buying both.
:rofl

[models916]

I removed the module from mine and use just the magnetic part and the coil for my MSD 6AL box.

[dunhamfield]

Well ya wanted to know how the HEI worked that I got off e-bay.....
It would not mount up in the typical position, that is with the vacuum advance in the 8 o-clock position (6 o-clock being the front of the engine)....
The wires coming out of the base housing hits my 3844465 manifold. There is only about a 1/16 clearance between the housing and the manifold...
I clocked the vacuum advance to 3 to 4 o-clock putting it where the original coil used to be. That put the wires to the back where I have plenty of clearance..
I'm guessing that as long as I get #1 cylinder identified that it should work in this position........just looks odd.
I am getting close to finishing this engine and I will take some photos.

[desapience]

Mike, I think W Head is sending his distributor to iginitionman for HEI conversion so he can retain original looking distributor. In my humble opinion, there are several good distributors available, especially if an adapter collar is used. But if someone wants to buy the best, it would have to be the MSD dist. specifically made for the w-head motor. Just my opinion.

Ronnie,

MSD's part #8393 is specific for the 348-409's, and I agree, is high quality, and offers all the adjustability one could ever wish for... the best, and the cost is coming down on ebay.

Denis

[dunhamfield]

Fixed the clearance problem today on the distributor. I got brave and assumed that the offending part of the manifold was thick at that point, so I machined out a 1/4 inch notch which allows clearance for the dist housing. Luck was on my side and all went well. Applied a small amount of heat to the area to check for thin spots. No hot spots, heat feals even so Im guessing that I still have plenty of thickness left on the manifold.
I will try to post a photo, but probably is too large and I cant figure how to shrink them .

[dunhamfield]

OK.......................:clap
I figured how to shrink photos!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cheers

[dunhamfield]

Sorry that I added my info to this thread.........
I guess that I should have started a new thread:doh
The site wont let me post these photos again in another thread

[3483x2]

Wallowing thru all the jargon here, :cuss I'm one of them newbie's who has an interest in the possibility of installing an HEI system. It's such a bummer the show cars offering doesn't support 3X2's. :cry (at least not without any modifications to the distributer or my intake either of which I have no interest in)
That understood, I guess my best alternative is to get my existing distributer converted to get that solid spark and preserve it's vintage appearance. Yes?
If so, who's the best to do such a task? :dunno Thanks

[SS425HP]

Try this guy. According to DQ, he does good work.



Dave Ray
E-mail Address(es):
sparkman451@earthlink.net

[Dond409]

Dave also has a website. Here's the link;

http://www.davessmallbodyheis.com

[3483x2]

SS409HP, Awesome! I did a google search on his email monikor before and found the site...
Dond409, Thanks for posting the link in case others are looking to do the same.

Exactly what I'm looking for. :D
Can't say I completely follow the differences between his offerings, but it looks like I'm a candidate for the MSD trigger conversion. I know more after I get his reply to my message.
Either way, this is the way I'm going to go.
Thanks Gentlemen. :bow

[Dond409]

Dave will set up the advance curve for your combination. And also set the vacuum advance to you car. He is very good at what he does. You will be very satisfied with his product.

[dq409]

Dave`s standard HEI set-up (for lack of a better word) works as a stand alone, as in just wire it up and it works.
It even looks stock as all the HEI stuff is under a stock dist cap using a remote coil.
The MSD trigger unit needs the MSD unit .
That is what I`m using with the MSD 6AL.

Either way you will get a great unit !! ,dq

[dave62]

I hate to burst anyone's bubble but I called Dave a few weeks ago. He was kind and informative but he ABSOLUELY would have nothing to do with touching another 409 distributor. He claimed that he had been accused of using this web site for his own personal gain and didn't want people thinking that was his motive. He was more than willing to tell me anything I wanted to know about my options and would be glad to assist me over the phone but refused to touch my distributor. :dunno

[W Head]

Dave refused to work on my dist also, because I was a member of this site. I went with the Pertronix conversion.:scratch

W Head

59 El Camino 348-3,2s
59 Impala 409-2,4s

[models916]

Crane also offer a solid state conversion. As long as bushings and shaft are good, should have no problems.

[mpris]

I have the Crane conversion in my car. Takes about twenty minutes to install and goes in where the points were. It also has a built in adjustable Rev Limiter.

http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?show=browseParts&lvl=5&prt=1973


Poocho

[Ronnie Russell]

I guess Ignitionman is a man of his word. He said, actually he ranted that he would have nothing to do with any of our members again. I have noticed his name as being -logged in - many times since then. If he dislikes us so much, what is his interest in our web-site? :dunno

[chevymusclecars]

Interesting that he takes the time to log in all the time but wants nothing to do with the people on this site. I thought maybe he had an interest in the 409 but looking through his post you see nothing where he talked about the 409, any engine discussion was to do with Pontiacs. I couldn't see where anyone accused him of using the site for personal gain but do see that his personal page advertises that he is an "ignition system manufacture"? I'm sure there must be other people out there do the same thing and hopefully one of you that wants a electonic ignition will run accross them.

[Russ348]

Wallowing thru all the jargon here, :cuss I'm one of them newbie's who has an interest in the possibility of installing an HEI system. It's such a bummer the show cars offering doesn't support 3X2's. :cry (at least not without any modifications to the distributer or my intake either of which I have no interest in)
That understood, I guess my best alternative is to get my existing distributer converted to get that solid spark and preserve it's vintage appearance. Yes?
If so, who's the best to do such a task? :dunno Thanks

Now I am confused:dunno Does the MSD's part #8393 distributor specific for
the 348-409 work with the intake manifold that supports the 3x2's.

Russ R.

[fatride]

Without a doubt the MSD ready to run dist. will fit with the three twos.

[3483x2]

My earlier comment was in regards to item: (example) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/348-409-CHEVY-CHEVROLET-IMPALA-BELAIR-HEI-DISTRIBUTOR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ46098QQitem Z8050010186.
I noted the comment that it wouldn't work with a 3x23 setup.
I wasn't aware the MSD offering was even available. At almost twice the cost...:eek:
As I have several of these distributers, my course of action will be to convert one to secure a positive spark and retain the original appearance. :)

[Russ348]

Without a doubt the MSD ready to run dist. will fit with the three twos.

Thanks for the replys. I have both the distributor and 3x2 manifold, just neither one installed YET.:cheers

[MK IISS]

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[dave62]

Guys, please let's not go down that road again!

[Ronnie Russell]

You are right Dave......... Subject closed.