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models916
02-02-2007, 05:26 PM
This is an article a friend sent me about scams at the Auction

> January 27th, 2007 by fourwheeldrift
> As a collector car journalist, I have been watching the
> Barrett-Jackson auction for years. For the last five or so years, it
> has been very apparent that the Scottsdale auction is at best a
> bastion of gross consumption...but now some hobbyists are claiming a
> worst: fraud.
>
> I've discussed B-J with collectors, dealers and enthusiasts, many of
> whom would be considered "insiders," meaning they've bought and sold
> cars at B-J and other auctions, or are well-known in the collector car
> hobby. For some reason, it is this year that people are all finally
> grumbling and passing rumors in unison.
>
> The bottom line is that Craig Jackson and the B-J company seem to have
> really screwed themselves this year. Apparently, a well-known judge
> (legal, rather than concours) selling a vehicle at B-J this year has
> filed papers with the court, because B-J contracts specifically
> promise every car three minutes on the stand. Evidently, he was one of
> the sellers who had his car short-timed. He communicated the story,
> which got broadcasted via the Classic Thunderbirds List. According to
> the grapevine, this is already being discussed as translating into
> class-action status for the benefit of other sellers.
>
> According to this judge and other sources, it appears Barrett-Jackson
> was operating a bit on the same level as an evangelical healing show.
> Allegedly they had assistants milling around asking what specific
> sellers thought their cars would bring. Armed with this information at
> the control desk, if a lot passed the value at which a seller
> indicated he'd be happy, the car would be rushed off and the gavel
> would fall - even if bidding was still very much alive.
>
> Because the event was televised on live television via the Speed TV
> network, the plaintiff(s) now have video/audio proof that buyers were
> signaling increased bids before the three-minute marks, but were
> denied by a too-fast last call and hammer.
>
> While this all might cause Barrett-Jackson to have to pay money to
> sellers in the form of a judgment or settlement, it is something else
> that might land Craig Jackson in jail.
>
> It is no secret that Barrett-Jackson owns many cars that are run
> through the auction - it was something I suspected many, many years
> ago. This was proven when they started maintaining a showroom of cars
> in Arizona. This is not illegal, but stay with me.
>
> Along with many collectors, I've always suspected that the cars owned
> by Craig Jackson and the B-J company were often driven up by shill
> bidders working for the company. Essentially, the strategy works in
> the sense that ever since the auction focus moved from classics like
> Packards and Duesenbergs to muscle cars, B-J has been able to shill,
> say a Hemi Cuda or mid-year Corvette 427 they own, which causes the
> value of the 10 other identical cars to increase. They wind up
> "buying" their own car back, but the others go on to regular buyers,
> who now are paying higher because of the perception the market has
> moved up.
>
> This suspicion has been supported by at least one auction attendee
> this year that says he witnessed cars sold at auction headed in
> trailers back to B-J's warehouse. The lawsuit allegedly points out
> that these cars also spent significantly more time on the block than
> others.
>
> If this isn't all interesting enough, during this year's auction,
> fellow collector car journalist, Keith Martin of Sports Car Market,
> was booted from the Westworld premises and his media credentials
> revoked for voicing loud, specific concern regarding the event while
> sitting in the media room. Barrett-Jackson accused Keith Martin of
> "holding court" and attempting to send VIPs and journalists to the
> competing RM and Russo and Steele auction events. Among the alleged
> opinions included that the cars at B-J were of inferior quality (and
> had quality misrepresented,) as well as that the bidders were
> significantly over-bidding cars, which shouldn't come as a surprise to
> anyone who has witnessed people paying six figures for cars they could
> have bought for under $50,000 any other day of the year!!!
>
> This is somewhat of an interesting twist. Keith Martin's publication
> has marketed the B-J events and has helped fuel its popularity. Keith
> is definitely one of the great "insiders" of the hobby, and has been a
> friend to Craig Jackson. In past years, Keith nor his publication have
> been critical of the goings-on and rumors, while other collector car
> journalists screamed that something stunk.
>
> It makes sense, since Sports Car Market really only tracks the value
> of vehicles and other items sold at auction, rather than via private
> sales (which really has skewed SCM's values for years!) So without
> kissing-*** to B-J, Keith would have missed insider info on the
> largest events covered by his mag. So we can only guess that Keith and
> Craig had a falling out of some type.
>
> I applaud Keith for turning the corner on his view of B-J, but I'm
> with others I've talked to about this: I hate to say this about a
> colleague, but I believe his behavior was a bit unprofessional. As
> journalists, it is our responsibility to write what we think, but
> going to the show for years, then promoting RM and Russo+Steele while
> at Westworld is somewhat unkosher. I agree that Keith, a true hobbyist
> who started out by writing an Alfa Romeo newsletter, was for a long
> time too much a part of the "circus" about which he finally rejected,
> and that SCM has to a significant degree helped to fuel misinformation
> and a house of cards regarding specific auction prices and bidding
> behavior. Keith, by all accounts, is a really good guy - an
> enthusiast, who maybe just needed to take a step back and a big breath
> and reacquaint himself with those outside of the very insulated
> collector car "in crowd" - and spend time with some car people who are
> not trying to exploit the collectors. There are plenty of guys who
> have dug themselves too deep into this little crowd, and are no longer
> fun to deal with, because they've put personal greed well ahead of the
> cars and the collectors. Keith will rebound - he has a great internal
> staff of really fantastic people, who hopefully will help him return
> to his roots.
>
> And Keith got his chance at revenge today, when his piece in the New
> York times said: "the red-hot market was cooling a bit." He likened
> the high auction prices to the Dot.com craze, then went on to say:
> "While the prices of some types of cars remain strong, primarily
> low-production muscle cars with their original engines ("numbers
> matching" is the trade term) or sports racing cars like Ferraris,
> other more common cars produced in larger numbers, or cars whose
> engines have been replaced, are holding their values, at best."
>
> If you want to get back at someone who owns an auction house, the best
> way, I suppose, is to tell everyone that prices are too high. Ouch!
>
> While I've never met him, the buzz among those in the hobby - both
> collectors and journalists, is that Craig Jackson is quite arrogant,
> so don't expect many to come to his rescue. He inherited his father's
> company, and has fueled B-J's admirable growth with a combination of
> intelligence, drive, ego, and greed. While there is nothing wrong with
> that combination, if it results in unethical and possibly illegal
> activities, that's inexcusable.
>
> Like many surrounding the hobby, I will be watching the events unfold.
> Will the Westworld tents come down like a house of cards, or will
> everything just go away with an exchange of a little money? It's
> happened before, like the 2006 event's Futurliner debacle when
> investor Ron Pratt allegedly negotiated a $3.0M price (after B-J staff
> admitted to mistaking the high bid), but the reported sale was for
> $4.0M.
>
> It's hard to predict the outcome. None of us have all the facts. Craig
> Jackson has become a very powerful man, and his company has pumps an
> estimated $96M dollars into the Arizona economy annually. He's allowed
> his say, and the appropriate judge/jury might very well decide he
> personally has done nothing wrong.
>
> This all being said, there's no doubt that Barrett-Jackson "jumped the
> shark" this year. Unlike when Fonzi did it, this story has Craig
> Jackson driving his allegedly shill-bid Hemicudas over the tank and
> down a ramp that could lead to six years in a minimum security
> prison-issued orange jumpsuit. If that's the case, maybe he can get
> Sports Car Market in the slammer to keep-up on Russo and Steele, RM
> and Kruse auction results.

fatride
02-02-2007, 06:56 PM
How sad it is that this could happen when there are so many people that cannot afford the cars that we love so much. Money cannot replace the joy of owning a good looking and fast 60 Impala! ;)

Dick MacKenzie
02-02-2007, 09:49 PM
Very interesting article. An opinion that, I believe, many are beginning to agree with.

Who is the author?

Tom Kochtanek
02-03-2007, 02:33 AM
I have a buddy here locally in Columbia, MO who put his Yenko clone (1969 Camaro) up for consignment at B-J this past January. It apparently sold, but he has not yet received his dollars, and B-J holds the check (some $80K) for a period of time, as well as charging some (IMHO) outrageous percentages from both buyer and seller for the said transaction. And the car still sits in Arizona. It takes a lot of cash and a lot of sweat to make these cars, and for B-J to profit that much, with that little risk, bothers me a bit. Think of how much it costs to transport and insure a car of that value for a trip to Scottsdale. Plus the consignment fees (non refundable). It appears that the risk is all on the seller and buyer.

If I sold $100 million plus worth of of collector cars in a couple of days, and made in excess of 20% on each transaction, I would think a bit of ethics is in order. Looks like that might not be the case...

Sad.... I'm still a hobbyist and hot rodder at heart and these prices and their associated costs just drive me to wonder...

TomK

MRHP
02-03-2007, 09:46 AM
I was telling my wife the same thing this year. Some cars lingered on the stage what seemed like forever while the auctioneers tried every attempt to get the next bid. Others they dropped the gavel when interested bidders still pondered. Having Jacksons cars on the block and trying to get the last ten cents for them seems horsesh!t to me. What made me think of this is the look on Jacksons face when the hammer dropped. Like someone kicked him in the sack. I thought to myself, why would he care if an auto sold too cheep in his opinion. Because it was HIS car, and he had to have a planted bidder buy it back? Glad I am not the only one that noticed this year. Hope I do not sound too paranoid. Brian

1958 impala
02-03-2007, 10:14 PM
To me as to many of you guys the auction is a great car show but the greed of the B.J. staff is just terrible.Guys we should be all so happy that we have our classic cars and dont have to try to pay the outrages dollars that Barrett Jackson has brought on.I certainly hope that B.J. doesnt go broke giving a meguires car polish kit and a couple of donated T.Vees to the public after raking in millions in fees for selling the classics that we all love but could only dream of owning at B.J. prices:doh :cheers :cheers