National Hot Rod Reunion

[Quickshift409]

Any members planning on attending the National Hot Rod Reunion at National Trail Raceway. This was held in Bowling Green but NHRA is moving it to Colmbus because it's bigger ( more money ) for NHRA. They have about 9 classes for racing and a very large Show 'n Shine area that holds 3,000 Cars. Sounds like a good time. Hope to see a lot of 348-409's there.
QS409

[gearhead409]

i will be there. if you like 60s style drag racing this is the place to be.

[jim_ss409]

I'm going.:deal I joined the East Coast Gassers and this is one of the events on there schedule. I'm looking forward to racing with them,,, they've got some cool cars... http://eastcoastgassers.com/member-cars.html
I know there'll be a few 409's running in Nostalgia Super Stock. I expect we'll see quite a few 348-409 club members there.

[goat boy]

i'll be there in my big green 62 camper. by the way i have started to round up parts for a 348 swap for big green.i have a bunch of the small stuff, but i need a long block. you guys are a bad influence. thanks?

[gearhead409]

i have been to all of the east coast reuions. wound't miss it for the world! our gang will be there with a black 63 belair.see you in the pits.

[Tom Kochtanek]

I've marked my summer calendar with the dates June 15-17 2007. Is that correct?

I am hoping to be able to get out and drive the '62 back to Ohio to visit Mom (suburbs of Cleveland) this summer, and attend the Hot Rod Reunion in Columbus :).

Problem is I'll be out there (hometown of Cleveland) the week before for another event. Back and forth, I guess. Just need to find the time. Not much time to get the car ready, might just be a drive out the way it is...

Do we need to register ahead of time, or can we just "wing it"?

Cheers!

TomK

[Quickshift409]

Tom, I think if you register ahead you get a Dash plaque,goody bag and Free Barbecue lunch. You have until May 25th to register.
QS409

[jim_ss409]

Here's a link with some info... http://www.nationaltrailraceway.com/apcm/templates/tickets.asp?articleid=644&zoneid=44&navsource=POWERade%20Series

[RPO587]

I'll be there too. I live about 25 minutes from National Trails so this one is right in my backyard!

Mark

[fatride]

I have the registration in hand, I'll try and be there.

[fatride]

I sent my registration in yesterday, I'll be there but I cannot find a place to stay :scratch I may be sleeping at the track :dunno Who's making breakfast :coffee:

[Phil Reed]

Who's making breakfast :coffee:

gin & tonic????????????????????????

[fatride]

gin & tonic????????????????????????

With a twist of lime please,,,,,,,,gotta have my fruit! :dunno

[jim_ss409]

We should be there.:beerbang

[rstreet]

I should be there as well. I have a room at the Hampton Inn over at International Getway. I don't have my admission stuff yet and hope to get that taken care of Monday or so. Hey, Just thought of something...How are I gonna find everyone coming????? Just follow the a.m. gin and tonics :scratch :scratch I might just pm everyone to exchange cell numbers. Mackenzie I can find easily by his team's car?:rofl
Robert

[fatride]

Just left the garage, bolted on the slicks this morning for the National Reunion. I will adjust the valves check the plugs and find some 101 octane. Let's rock! :beerbang

Update,,,,,,,,,,, Just left the Auto parts store. Bought new MSD 8.5 wires with the spark plug dist cap ends. I have had the MSD spark plug type cap since I bought the MSD ready to run billit dist but did not have the correct plug wires. Ordered new Fel Pro valve cover gaskets. Thinking about dropping the exhaust system to save weight. Sure wish I had some light weight wheels and front race tires. I'm thinking with some weight reduction I can shave a few tenths!

[walkerheaders]

old school rule of thumb.................100 lbs.= 1/10th
go get 'em

[1958 impala]

Wish I could be there but I have fish waiting in Alaska.Take a few Pics:cheers

[409 Chevy Performance]

We will be there also along with the Colorado crew.

[fatride]

Just got out of the garage. I made up and installed the new MSD 8.5 race plug wires today. They were a universal set. You have to make up the distributer ends including the boots. THIS JOB TOOK ME ALL DAY LONG, AT LEAST 5 HOURS :deal A 1/4 of the job was spent routing the wires. I have the wires routed toward the rear of the engine past the valve covers against the firewall instead of running them over the rear of the valve covers. I also did away with the female type distributor cap in favor of the male type (spark plug end) spark plug wires with the wire hold down loom.

[DIV1RACER-2]

Well i can finally say out loud that the Hot Rod Reunion is for sure! I committed to too many customer "project " cars this winter & everything was delayed for all the usual reasons?

Long & short of story , car is finally out of trailer and on the rack ! :clap :clap

I will be there !!

Stop by and B.S.

[fatride]

Great news Denny, I hope that all the 409 guys can pit together.

[Dick MacKenzie]

Outstanding! :clap I'll look you up.

[bluescreamer]

Denny
Its about time you took a break, the work will still be there when you get back. ENJOY your self
Will see you at Columbus, will be going to Indy for the Goodguys, leaving tomorrow morning.
Could stop for lunch if you aren't to busy.:coffee: I believe I still have your
cell number.
Allen

[MileHiSS]

We will be there also along with the Colorado crew.

Jack,
Who all is going from Colorado?

My friend, Bill Warrick from Amarillo, was up this weekend for GoodGuys. Your name came up in our 409 conversations.

[DIV1RACER-2]

Allen ,

Lets do the lunch thing tomorrow. Call me & i meet you @ the interstate! :clap

Shop 724-222-1350
Cell 724-263-0009

looking foward to some fun for a change !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Phil Reed]

Lets do the lunch thing tomorrow. Call me & i meet you @ the interstate! :clap



CAN I COME TOO????????????
I-70 & Murtland????????????? I'll be the 58 Edsel on the side of the road eastbound. Remember Denny................I called in several times to your business about getting it towed in and repaired.....and I'm still setting here!!!!:rofl :rofl :rofl

[bluescreamer]

Yes, Phil, you can join us for lunch. Maybe that's the only way you will
get Denny to pull the Edsel off of the interstate.
Will be going west on I-70 flag me down as I go by. :rofl :rofl
Allen

[rstreet]

I'll be flying over I-70 to Columbus. I'll be looking along I-70 for the confusion:rofl :rofl I should be there Friday afternoon without car. 443.783.2011
Robert

[DIV1RACER-2]

Can't seem to get anybody to tow the EDSEL , They don't have the grille adapters for the slings & to heavy to put on a flat bed !

I'll just have it CRUSHED !!! :rofl :rofl :rofl

Your still welcome to come to lunch Phil !! :hug

[DIV1RACER-2]

Met Allen for lunch today , good to see old pals ! :clap


Phil did not 'SHOW " :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Phil Reed]

PPPPBBBBBBBBBSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil :evil :evil

I'm still inside the Edsel..........waiting for my tow truck!!!!

Don't mention either of you had a chicken fried steak........or Ronnie will be pi$$ed too!!!!!!!!!!

[NITROFC]

I be there from thur on .......................

[51T409]

Jimmie isn't a member on this site but he will be at the reunion fri and sat.so look for him, he'll be racing his black 63 "BUST OUT" chevy.(you've all seen it in chevy rumble mag.) good luck Jimmie!!!!!!! Have a good time everyone that is going and take lots of pic. to share with us.

[fatride]

I have everything done except cleaning and loading the car, see everyone Fri. before noon I hope. I hope to pit with a fellow 409 racer? ;)

[Ronnie Russell]

Good luck guys,,,,, Make us all proud. .001 lights and run the number. Be safe and have a good time...:) :)

[NITROFC]

I be there from thur on .......................

Guys look me up ..I will be takin pictures for www.hotrodhotline.com

Would like to meet some fellow W- BLOCK guys .....:cheers

[NITROFC]

Info on NHRA HRR ....Lots of Interviews with racers, Don Trasin's Jade Grenade will Cackle and a parking lot full of hot rods will greet the media on Thurs., June 14 beginning at 3 p.m. at the Columbus Airport Marriott.

Media Day, a half-hour of intense visuals and a chance to speak with luminaries including Paul Le Mat of American Graffiti, Reunion Grand Marshal Jeg Coughlin and many more, is the lead in to a hot rod cruise to Jeg's High Performance in Delaware, Ohio.


http://media.pcgcampbell.com/nhrr/poster.jpg

[rstreet]

I'm getting my stuff ready. Be there Friday afternoon
Robert

[Quickshift409]

I will be there but the car can't make it. This weekend the upper control arm broke loose and the rearend pitched up trashing the driveshaft yoke and the shocks. I will have the car ready for the Blue Suede Cruise and will not test it the weekend before.
QS409

[Dick MacKenzie]

I'll be leaving this afternoon. Jim is there with the car now. Anyone who is going please stop by our pit. I'd like to meet everyone from the board that comes to the HRR. Russ Campbell will be there with his Red 62 Pro Nostalgia Belair. Rusty will be in attendance but the car is ready.

[fatride]

I will be there but the car can't make it. This weekend the upper control arm broke loose and the rearend pitched up trashing the driveshaft yoke and the shocks. I will have the car ready for the Blue Suede Cruise and will not test it the weekend before.
QS409

This is very disappointing news, :cry I was looking forward to seeing your car again :doh

[region rat]

I'm hoping to to make it Saturday.Friday after work, I need to pick up a trunkfull of castings and get them to the foundry late Friday. I'll try and bring a head down that's been machined for show and tell. Look forward to seeing Da Boys! Region Rat

[gearhead409]

Bob, i will be there early in the morning, about an hr. and 20 min. drive for us. looking forward to seeing your new cyl. head. our gang left this morning, should already be there. i will be somewhere around Jimmie Stevens black 63 belair.

[rstreet]

Here are some pictures from the Hot Rod Reunion. Our members cars ran great(mostly) but I'll let them take it from there. Since I had no car there I was like a kid at the Hershey Chocolate factory! Ray AKA "fatride" sure cooks a good no frills meal!!

Not only does Ray's Car run great he also takes time to "cruise" between runs
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/thelilprofessor/NHRAHotRodReunion129.jpg


Denny & Ray's Car's looking good at Denny's trailer just before a run
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/thelilprofessor/NHRAHotRodReunion131.jpg

These pictures don't show the great details of Jim's Phantom 409
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A good launch by Denny
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/thelilprofessor/NHRAHotRodReunion141.jpg

The MacKenzie's car with "Dick the crew chief" helping stage
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Another consistant run of Ray's
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/thelilprofessor/NHRAHotRodReunion142.jpg

Blue Screamer at launch
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/thelilprofessor/NHRAHotRodReunion145.jpg

Here's what happens when someone brings several Aluminum 409cylinder heads to Denny's trailer. Attracts like ants to sugar!!
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/thelilprofessor/NHRAHotRodReunion226.jpg

[Dick MacKenzie]

at the Hot Rod reunion! :clap

And you miss a lot of great people too.. Had a really interesting conversation with Gearhead409, and the lovely lady accompanying him! Super people! Bob W hung out with Denny and Bo and brought some samples of his aluminum goodies. You gotta see those heads!

Took a few pictures, missed a bunch. Here are some from yesterday and today. I apologize in advance for mis-spellings. :bang

Tim Kilkery's 63 - Neighbor and friend of Denny's. Talked a while with Tim's dad Bill.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/Bill_TimKilkery.jpg

Rick & Linda Dally's 62 409 Super Sport made the trip from Canada. More fantastic people! You need get Rick to talk about his 62s. He has some great stories. I wish I had more time to talk with them.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/Rick_LindaDally.jpg

Jim also made it from Onterio. What a beautiful car!
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/Jim.jpg

Robert made it in from down the peninsula. Here he is taking a break.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/RobertStreet.jpg

It got pretty hot in Columbus, here's Rusty in the shade of Russ's trailer trying to keep cool.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/Rusty.jpg


Staging lane pics
Allan made it for the weekend but I lost track of him in the staging lanes.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/AllenGeorge.jpg

More in the next post........

[Dick MacKenzie]

Denny looks like he's giving up but actually put on a good showing this weekend.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/DennyFord2.jpg

Bo keeping an eye under the hood as Denny warms up.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/DennyFord.jpg

Jim S made the show just as Gearhead said he would.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/JimmyStevens.jpg

Ray and the Fatride made it. What a sweet ride! :brow
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/Ray.jpg

Valerie's car is always in the running too!
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/ValerieMcCombs.jpg

Vern Jr had his dad's car out.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/Vern1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/VernGriffith.jpg

We were there, here's Jim, had fuel problems most of the weekend. Finally got it pretty well sorted out thanks to Larry Perkins.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/JimMacKenzie.jpg

Last but not least...Russ and Susan's beautiful Belair.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g311/bfnjz52/RussCampbell.jpg

[Dick MacKenzie]

Now that I've finished posting these pics I see Robert beat me to the punch.
:rofl

[Dick MacKenzie]

Now the bad news. Bobby and Sylvia Crouse brought Sylvia's 62 Biscayne to the HRR from Elkton MD. Sylvia had problems on her first run Friday and hit the wall on both sides of the track. Sylvia was banged up pretty badly with sprains and strains, a cracked rib and bruises. She spent a couple nights at the hospital. Bobbie told us they were taking her home today. Best wishes for a speedy recovery Sylvia.

Pictures taken by Roger Richards:
http://gallery.competitionplus.com/main.php?g2_itemId=605861

[dq409]

O Man !!:eek:
I hope Sylvia is OK,,
Watching the pictures of her crash she hit that wall really hard !!

It looks like she was knocked out,,wish her the best,,

Dam shame,,, car is wasted

[Steve "wully bully"]

Hope all is well with Sylvia! Bob is our President for MANDRA, and Sylvia is the Treasurer, both are really Great people! We look forward to seeing her again at the track!
Steven

[gearhead409]

thank you for your kind words. Bonnie and i had a very good time meeting everyone. she is on this website as much as i am. everyone was a joy to meet and very upbeat. it's nice to know there are such good people here. i was on the phone with Jimmie Stevens last night, he couldn't stop talking about you guys and the good time he had. thanks for making him welcome.

[region rat]

For all the guys that couldn't make it to the reunion, plan on it next year . It is like going back in time. Old guys, old cars, one word...WOW!
Once you meet the guys, you're like family. Every one welcomes you. Don't mis it. Bob

[region rat]

If any members got pictures of non-club cars, try and post them. We had a guy with a front engine rail we talked about on the forum that's set up for 2 motors. He's getting ready to put the second one in. I think he was trying to get it ready for Indy, maybe Super Chevy??
Also an altered with a mechanical Hilborn that's he's been running for decades.Used to run a clutch turbo.
If any one has pictures of guys with non fuel alcohol, please delete. What happens at a reunion, stays at the Reunion. Bob

[gearhead409]

i talked to the young man that had the blower motor. he is still looking for a large port manifold for the second engine. hasn't had much luck. the guy that had the fuel injected engine used a two four offy manifold, cut the whole top off and mounted a hillborn setup on top of it. some guys can do anything, it looked good! i didn't get to see either one of these cars run, would have loved to though.

[region rat]

Gearhead, It was great meeting you and some of the other guys. That blower stuff was wild. That's something I want to build. Maybe toss in some alky?
That Hilborn was from a Max Wedge. Ports are real close. Helps to be a machinist.Bob

[Ronnie Russell]

Loren, Any chance that either the guy with the injected car or the guy with the blown car will visit our forum? I sure would like to hear more about them. Seems like there were many non-member w-head engines on site. I will make arrangements to be there next year. Too much good stuff to miss.

[region rat]

Ronnie, The injected car is from Missouri, think Phil knows him. The car the Dutchman's something? Talked to him last year too.Hard core. Great guy.We missed you guys too! Bob

[gearhead409]

Ronnie i didn't catch their names ( i should have) too excited about their engines. the blower motor was in a red dragster called Gravy 818 Train. with two 409s in it, i understand the 818! i have been to all the eastcoast reunions, it keeps getting bigger. you will get your moneys worth if you can make it next year.

[JimKwiatkowski]

Robert & Dick,Very Good camera work guys,I hope you Guys bring your cameras to Norwalk and do some more Good work :D

[rstreet]

Jim K and other members: Since I didn't have a car there like I said earlier I was like a little kid in the Hershey Chocolate factory!!!!! I took 231 pictures. If anyone who didn't make it there wants them all(except the inner probably secret close ups of Jim MacKenzie's brother's race set up) please let me know. I would try to burn them on a CD if they will fit. Anyway Jim and others here are 10 other pictures that may be of interest to members without any comments from the picture taker!!! Except that I also like the Willy's gassers.


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[Ronnie Russell]

Thanks to all for posting those great pictures. Everybody run their normal times? Was Ray able to run under 15 seconds???? :dunno :dunno

[jim_ss409]

Thanks to all for posting those great pictures. Everybody run their normal times? Was Ray able to run under 15 seconds???? :dunno :dunno

Yeah, Thanks for the pictures.:beerbang

I think everybody was running pretty good despite the heat. I think Ray ran 12.70 and my 55 ran 10.80 The W motor was well represented by lots of top racers. I got to meet quite a few 348-409 guys but the event was so big and there was so little time that I know I missed seeing a lot of them. I didn't get many photos but here's some of what I did get... Another car that was there was Danny Goveia's Carolina Thunder but I didn't get a picture.

[bluescreamer]

Final got home after being away for 10 days. I will try to bring you up to speed.
Left June 6th for Indy Good Guys. Arrived on Thursday morning. Tech in on Thurs. Time trials on Fri. Ran a 10.64 in 1st time shot. changed throttle lenght to slow car down for 2nd time run, still ran a 10.76. we had rain shower that afternoon and the air density changed. (there was a indecent that happen that would affect me for the rest of my trip away from home, will fill you in later.) Elected to put all the throttle back in and run the 10.50 "B" Super Stock Class for the Saturday race. Nostalgia Super Stock had 24 car in competion with 7 in "B" class. To make a long story short we went to the final in class and lost. But getting there had a .020, a .006 and a .013 reaction time. Larry Kaufman had a .198 light, but put a 10.500 run together for the win to my .013 light and a 10.667 run.
Sunday was another day and had to place 10.680 on the window for the day. Only trouble was that I had a -.041 in the first round for a loss, so ended the Indy goodguys show for me.
Onto the Hot Rod Reunion. No major problems to to speak of, but did have oil leak around oil filter adapter that had to be repaired on Sat morning.
Decided to try and slow Blue Screamer down to the 11.00 index so I could run in the "C" Super Stock class. Four time shots and I never got it close to 11.00. I believe there where 47 super stocks in the class.
Was able to get to 2nd round with a super run in the first round of elimination. Dial was a 11.00 had a .000 reaction time :clap :clap :clap and 10.956 on the brakes. to my competions 10.50 dial with a .004 reaction and a 10.414 run. I had the better break out.
2nd round there was 2 F**ds, 1 Pont and "one lone Blue Chevy" left in the field of chrysler products. There may have been others but they may have had troubles or issues. The guy I ran in the 2nd round put a .006 light against my .035 light. That was enough to put me on the trailer.
Had a great time meeting all the guys at Indy and Columbus. Hopefully will be back next year.
Allen

[Dick MacKenzie]

Dial was a 11.00 had a .000 reaction time :clap :clap :clap and 10.956 on the brakes. to my competions 10.50 dial with a .004 reaction and a 10.414 run. I had the better break out.
Allen


I saw that time slip! :brow Can you imagine being the guy in the other lane ...cutting a .004 lite and still coming up short! :rofl

Allen is on his game!:clap :clap

[Dick MacKenzie]

Here is a link to some film I shot of the Gassers, Altereds and mostly AA/Fuelers that were participating in the cacklefest Saturday evening. Someone driving one of Tommy Ivo's old fuelers (not Ivo) ran into the back of Garlits when he was trying to start the car. Big was Hot!

http://thumbs.vidiac.com/c0138c60-51ae-44b3-9e67-9952011a26e8.jpg (http://ywnv.vidiac.com/video/c0138c60-51ae-44b3-9e67-9952011a26e8.htm)Click here to see Video (http://ywnv.vidiac.com/video/c0138c60-51ae-44b3-9e67-9952011a26e8.htm)

[Dick MacKenzie]

In this clip you can see the effects of the fuel problems we were dealing with Friday and Saturday. :doh

Allen doesn't seem to be having any problems though! :bow

http://thumbs.vidiac.com/1f66ea4c-825d-4229-a849-9952013d0c88.jpg (http://ywnv.vidiac.com/video/1f66ea4c-825d-4229-a849-9952013d0c88.htm)Click here to see Video (http://ywnv.vidiac.com/video/1f66ea4c-825d-4229-a849-9952013d0c88.htm)

[jim_ss409]

Cool video Dick.:beerbang

Here's a link to the Tommy Ivo dragster bumping into Garlits... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vejbVUVMgF8 I hope it works.:scratch

And here's a link to a bunch of event photos... http://gallery.competitionplus.com/main.php?g2_itemId=604795

[fatride]

When at the Hot Rod Nationals this past week, after qualifying. I went to the tower to have a look at the ladder. No biggie right? When I scanned the list I saw,

R Barnhart
GTOSS
A/SS

Well I says to myself, this is not my number and this is not my Class! I should have been ,

R Barnhart
2011
F/SS

I went into the track office and asked the man, could there be a problem? He said thank's for bringing that up and he would correct it. Ok fine. Rode the Mini bike back to the pits and stopped at Denny Ford's trailer. Bomar was there and I told him of the problem with the ladder. Bo say's, No, there's nothing wrong with the ladder there are two R Barnhart's on there! :scratch Back to the tower I go. When I got there the track official I had talked to was looking at the ladder. I told him , "Not so fast" there is a snafu here somewhere! Back into the office. He get's the Tech cards out and goes through them one at a time untill he come's to mine. He pulles my card out and continues to go through the cards. Low and behold, he pulles out another tech card signed,,,,,,,,,,,R Barnhart,,,,,,,,,,:eek: I'll be darned if there wasn't another R Barnhart running in N/SS that day :doh Go figure? The guy was from WV. running a 1970 GTO, hence the GTOSS number! I didn't get to meet him and do not see a 1970 GTO in the pictures. Did anyone meet this guy? I'm going to try and look him up. :dunno Isn't that strange :scratch

[Quickshift409]

Ray, there may be 2 R. Barnhart's, but their is only one Fatride and he is ours.
QS409

[Ronnie Russell]

:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

[rstreet]

I agree there is only one Fatride:hug :hug I think I have the GTO picture in the background of something else. I'll post it if I can find it.
Robert

[dq409]

. :dunno Isn't that strange :scratch

O NO !!!! Not two of you !!!!:rofl :rofl