1962 Bel Air Bubble Top 409 Project

CASHguzzler409

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Hi guys, finally finished up getting the work completed on the engine. Change fuel pumps, hoping that the 5-6 psi will help, that only took two or three tries, my hands look like they have been in a knife fight. Installed a 1" spacer for the fan blade, hoping that it might help with cooling, beings that it's now closer to the radiator. We'll see tomorrow.
If things go right, I'll start taking the dash down and install the good speedometer I have, and also fix the turn signal cancelling cam parts.
Of course I have hrs of sandblasting to do for the Gold Car, its a trade type deal he helps me with body work, I do the his small parts. :dunno2:think
:rain Starting to rain here, so its garage time, at least its not to cold yet.
 

CASHguzzler409

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Hi, back again, Christeen is still fighting me with the fuel pump issue. I've install two pumps, neither pump push's fuel to the bowl. I do have a question for the more advanced 409 mechanic's. On the front left side of the motor next to the fuel pump I have two (2) drilled holes. I"ve heard that one can be used to keep the pump push rod up while installing the pump?. Where these two holes drilled for Air conditioning
use?. My friend buzzsaw63goldcar, has no drilled holes in this section on his 2 motors. I did take and shorten the one that hold's up the push rod, but the back one I left longer. To Carmen, you aren't the only one that has problems with mechanics.
Also does the 409 engine take a longer push rod that a 327 pump? Going crazy here:crazy
 

W Head

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Holes are there for front mounted motor mounts (some trucks had a U shaped front motor mount- think I'm correct on this) On my 409, one of the holes (top I think) goes all the way thru and can hold up the fuel pump rod with a long bolt. Also if you do not put a short bolt back in this hole it will leak oil. I have another block that the hole does not go all the way thru. Do not know why the blocks are different.

W Head

59 Impala 409-2,4s
 

CASHguzzler409

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Hi, Got the pump, put it in, not to much trouble, after learning how to put one in about 10 times. Tested the psi and it came up about 4 psi. The car started after some pumping, ran good, a little fast, 1300 at idle, adjusted idle screw and it came down to about 900. I had to shut it down as it was filling the garage with fumes. I will take it down off the jack stands today, and take it outdoors, run it for a while to warm it up, then take it for a drive, see if the temp is any cooler with the fan blade extension. Today is a good day.:winner
Thanks for the help and idea's along the way. cash
 

CASHguzzler409

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No Bitching today.....:driverFinally after much fiddling, as last and final resort had my friend Brian come over, take a look at what I had done, he spent maybe 10 minutes under car, which I had jacked up about 2', said someth hqdefault.jpg ing about the reverse gear staying in neutral gear, its done. I took the "old" Christine" out for a great drive, on the freeway, hammered a few gears, ran like a raped ape. So cool to have it back on the road and running like i knew it should.
 

CASHguzzler409

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Hi, Sure nice to have the 409 ready for the road any time I want to take it out. Im still going to have to fix the turn signal cancelling problem, and replace the speedometer housing in the dash, but I don't want to start that until Im sure I don't want to take it out again for a while. I've been doing a lot of sandblasting for Barry's Gold car, we trade hrs, for work on each others cars. Hope everyone has a great "rest of the year". cash. :salute
 

CASHguzzler409

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And a "Happy New Year" and 409 to all. I still haven't learned my lesson, I decided to take the 2x4 carbs apart, that were rebuilt by a friend, but I've always had a problem with them. The nice thing is you can go on U-Tube and watch them taking and putting them back together. But I have some questions for you if you're willing. I took some pictures to help show my problem. I have 2 "sets", of #3361 & #3804. So when taking them apart I started with just one, did that one, then did the other. Never having taking a carb apart, I should have noticed the small details. There is my question. On the Carb with Choke #3804, the back throttle Auxilary Valve and Weights are #2-250, and they are noticeably bent upwards, where as the other lay flatter to the bowl. Also, the # 800/799 on the Primary venturi clusters is also different on the two carbs.
You would think that seeing these are the same carb #'s they should have the same parts.
Any ideas, ? My car always ran rich, would not idle. Thanks for looking, cash

ps. I did notice I had put one of them in wrong, then replaced it.


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Throttle angle is more level.. than other one. No numbers on throttle Prim Vent different #
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Put these in wrong....
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You can see the throttle is angled way up. 2-250- w/799/800 Prim.vent
Could this be because this is not the choke carb?

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