1963 NOVA SS

Charlie Dawson

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I just purchased a 1963 Chevy NOVA SS convertible. It has a 194 6 cylinder with a three speed.
I want to install a 1964 327/300 engine in the NOVA without "street rodding" it.
Does anyone know exactly what needs to be done to the front end to beef it up to accomodate the 327?
Does anyone know where to obtained the necessary parts to make the swap. I do not necessarly want to swap out the front end with the street rod clips that are out there. I want to keep the NOVA as stock as possible.

Thanks, Charlie 757-620-7733
 

PAINTJOHN1

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Charlie , When we raced our 62 Nova,I remember most things but others may chim in..WE did this exact swap in 1968..First off, the V8 wasn't installed in the Nova until 64, and then it was the 283 with a powerslide ,or a 3 speed manual. If I remember correctly, there was no factory 4Sp in the 62-65 Nova. It was 66 before the Nova came with a 4Sp. The only change for the V8 other than heavier springs was the bigger brakes with optional power assist and 5 lugs and 14" wheels.

As for installing the engine. The Chevy V/8 motor mounts towers are bolt in.You need to get Nova V/8 towers,probably from,GM,Junk Yard or aftermarket company. No frame changes are needed. The mounts towers need to be for a Nova,small block motor mounts work fine, and will bolt right in.
The oil pan, oil pick up, and the oil pump drive all need to be changed. The pump drive is shorter. The pick up reaches to the front of the pan, and the pans sump is located forward of the cross member. Back in the day the filter had to be changed to a spin on filter. The original canister hung to low, and had exhaust clearance issues,use a short oil filter,not the longer one..
The wiring was a matter of moving the wire for the distributor and that' it. The alternator wiring was long enough that it reached the alternators new position with no problem. The same went for the starter wires.

I do not recall what stock exhaust manifolds were used,we use wheel well headers since the car was strictly used as a race car,at first modified production,then gas,and finally altered, but back then the selection of manifold were minimal. Best guess were ram center dumps.
As for transmissions, the original powerglide was the easiest swap because there's no drive line work needed, just drop in the engine and go. The standard was easy as well, but who wanted a 3 speed with a V8, no one!

Personally we went with a Muncie 4 speed , and the shifter came right up through the floor like it was factory installed. But this did require some trim work on the cross member to keep the cross member from making contact with the tail housing of the 4 speed where the tail housing bolted to the trans. If I remember, it was about a 15 minute job to trim the cross member with a grinder.Other than that it was a direct bolt in, and the original auto trans mount was reused with the 4 speed.. Even the same drive shaft from the original 6 cylinder auto went right into the 4 speed without any cutting! (its a 60's Chevy, one size pretty much fits all)

Using the original Corvette linkage with the shortened throw made that car a whole lot of fun to drive.

Nothing Special about the clutch . We used a blow proof Lakewood bell housing, zoom clutch and aluminum flywheel for a Corvette application , and a fork from I don't know what, and never had a problem,but you could use pretty much any GM bellhousing,Corvette Clutch and Flywheel if your going stock with the car. Nothing was ever done to the suspension other than an alignment, and I think the brakes were swapped out for larger ones, but once again I've forgotten just what was done with the brakes.Our wheels for originally 4 lug,we swapped them out for 5 lug wheels from a later Nova.
The exhaust was could be custom made with 2 1/2" pipes from front to rear. Your car could be one neat sleeper,sounds like a real neat project.
So here's the here's the bottom line, it takes an oil pan, an oil pump pick up, a couple of engine mounts and the oil pump drive. Those are the only specific parts needed to install any small block Chevy into a 62- 65 Nova.Good luck and post some pictures.:dance:clap John
 

oldskydog

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If you don't have a Chevy II block and you go with a standard trans, you'll need the 64-67 Chevy II bell housing and an aftermarket bracket to relocate the clutch cross shaft. The 63 bell housing will work only with a 63 T-10 due to thde smaller front bearing retainer size on the 63 trans. Those bells are pretty cheap and would work fine if you have the hole machined out to the regular size for a muncie/ early T-10. There are many parts suppliers for Chevy II/Nova. Classic Industries is one and JW Nova are a couple. Google is your friend.
There is a forum like this one for Chevy II/Nova, where you can get some technical info, but they are more into modified cars than original.
http://www.nnnova.com/
 

lilbuzzy

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i think i have an nos pan and pickup for a v8 nova still int the box. if you are interested, let me know and i will check.

richie
 

Charlie Dawson

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Charlie , When we raced our 62 Nova,I remember most things but others may chim in..WE did this exact swap in 1968..First off, the V8 wasn't installed in the Nova until 64, and then it was the 283 with a powerslide ,or a 3 speed manual. If I remember correctly, there was no factory 4Sp in the 62-65 Nova. It was 66 before the Nova came with a 4Sp. The only change for the V8 other than heavier springs was the bigger brakes with optional power assist and 5 lugs and 14" wheels.

As for installing the engine. The Chevy V/8 motor mounts towers are bolt in.You need to get Nova V/8 towers,probably from,GM,Junk Yard or aftermarket company. No frame changes are needed. The mounts towers need to be for a Nova,small block motor mounts work fine, and will bolt right in.
The oil pan, oil pick up, and the oil pump drive all need to be changed. The pump drive is shorter. The pick up reaches to the front of the pan, and the pans sump is located forward of the cross member. Back in the day the filter had to be changed to a spin on filter. The original canister hung to low, and had exhaust clearance issues,use a short oil filter,not the longer one..
The wiring was a matter of moving the wire for the distributor and that' it. The alternator wiring was long enough that it reached the alternators new position with no problem. The same went for the starter wires.

I do not recall what stock exhaust manifolds were used,we use wheel well headers since the car was strictly used as a race car,at first modified production,then gas,and finally altered, but back then the selection of manifold were minimal. Best guess were ram center dumps.
As for transmissions, the original powerglide was the easiest swap because there's no drive line work needed, just drop in the engine and go. The standard was easy as well, but who wanted a 3 speed with a V8, no one!

Personally we went with a Muncie 4 speed , and the shifter came right up through the floor like it was factory installed. But this did require some trim work on the cross member to keep the cross member from making contact with the tail housing of the 4 speed where the tail housing bolted to the trans. If I remember, it was about a 15 minute job to trim the cross member with a grinder.Other than that it was a direct bolt in, and the original auto trans mount was reused with the 4 speed.. Even the same drive shaft from the original 6 cylinder auto went right into the 4 speed without any cutting! (its a 60's Chevy, one size pretty much fits all)

Using the original Corvette linkage with the shortened throw made that car a whole lot of fun to drive.

Nothing Special about the clutch . We used a blow proof Lakewood bell housing, zoom clutch and aluminum flywheel for a Corvette application , and a fork from I don't know what, and never had a problem,but you could use pretty much any GM bellhousing,Corvette Clutch and Flywheel if your going stock with the car. Nothing was ever done to the suspension other than an alignment, and I think the brakes were swapped out for larger ones, but once again I've forgotten just what was done with the brakes.Our wheels for originally 4 lug,we swapped them out for 5 lug wheels from a later Nova.
The exhaust was could be custom made with 2 1/2" pipes from front to rear. Your car could be one neat sleeper,sounds like a real neat project.
So here's the here's the bottom line, it takes an oil pan, an oil pump pick up, a couple of engine mounts and the oil pump drive. Those are the only specific parts needed to install any small block Chevy into a 62- 65 Nova.Good luck and post some pictures.:dance:clap John

John, Thanks for your great information..Charlie
 

Charlie Dawson

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i think i have an nos pan and pickup for a v8 nova still int the box. if you are interested, let me know and i will check.

richie

Richie, Please check, I am currently talking to Chevy 2 Only and I think he has quoted me a price for the Pan and pick up.
Please let me know what you wwant for yours, Charlie 757-620-7733
 
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