Do I need to install a slip joint on my stock driveshaft if I go with a billet carrier bearing. Read somewhere during a search that Paul installed a billet bearing on a stock driveshaft but have also read you need the slip joint.
Billet carrier bearing
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Tom
I ran a Victory Performance DS with their billet carrier brng for at least 8 years. Chrome moly. No problems. Of course, I never abused it. Took apart now and am replacing the 3 u-joints. $90 cheap insurance. Just because of a fatigue standpoint. Slip joint only on trans. Doesn't have to say inland empire on it to do the job.
I ran a Victory Performance DS with their billet carrier brng for at least 8 years. Chrome moly. No problems. Of course, I never abused it. Took apart now and am replacing the 3 u-joints. $90 cheap insurance. Just because of a fatigue standpoint. Slip joint only on trans. Doesn't have to say inland empire on it to do the job.
"Of course, I never abused it."
Lol, Dave. When did you NOT abuse it.
Lol, Dave. When did you NOT abuse it.
So Dave, you have a 2 piece drive shaft?
Yes I do Tom. When I was thinking of upgrading from stock DS I put out a post on this site about one or 2 piece. After that I went with the 2 piece. No cutting of the x frame involved. Bluescreamer, RIP, advised no problems with the 2 piece amonst a few other racers. One piece would probably be just fine also as there are lots of them out there too.
Looking for a billet carrier bearing.
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fourzeronine
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How much suspension travel do you have? People have been known to pop the bearing out of the polyurethane in the billet carriers when using a solid rear shaft.
I never had a problem with the Shaker on the track without a slip yoke.
You could probably get away with not running a slip yoke on the track but the street is an entirely different situation. The slip joint is there to ensure there is enough give and take due to hitting dips in the road, pot holes and anything else that may flex the suspension any. Its always buyer beware if you intend to make that rear axle flex any then you had better have a slip yoke and besides they are cheap. There is a company that makes them for lowriders with hydraulics and they are like $250.
https://www.hopposonline.com/58-64-impala-slip-yoke/
I have a solid carrier on my wagon but I also have a 6' long ladder bar welded under the car to keep the axle from twisting or pushing forward and back. Works like a dream for my set up.
https://www.coolcars.org/driveshaft-parts/59-64-slip-yoke-driveshaft/
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-64-Chevy-Impala-Belair-Slip-Shaft-Driveshaft-Driveline-For-Lowered-Cars/264909157302?hash=item3dadd0f3b6:g:rLIAAOSw-sNfkd-f&fits=Year:1964|Model:Impala|Make:Chevrolet
ragtp66
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You can get the Rear shaft with slip joint from show cars he two
https://show-cars.com/product/4157
https://show-cars.com/product/4156
If you are running a poly bearing you should use the slip joint as stated above it allows the rear half of driveshaft to move fore and aft as the suspension articulates through its range of motion. The original carrier bearing design allowed for this but when you install the much more rigid bearing the rear shaft will go into a bind because it can no longer move front to back.
There are people who convert to 1pc driveshafts and I will state my opinion that if Chevrolet COULD have made a 1pc shaft, they WOULD have if you add the cost of the carrier bearing, the third u-joint, the splined yoke at the rear of the front driveshaft add them together even in 1958 dollars lets say you have $30 x 3,000,000 vehicles built during the 58-64 years (just pulling a number out of the air) is $90,000,000 reasons why GM would have done it if they COULD have. If that is not enough then spend a few minutes to understand the concept of critical speed as it relates to driveshafts. In a nutshell Critical speed is the point in which the driveshaft will begin to distort, vibrate, and eventually fail. I am not an engineer nor do I play one on TV but those are my thoughts. I am sure those that choose to go that route will start flaming me with the "I have ran a 1pc shaft in my car for 20 yrs and never had a problem" responses which is fine to each their own. Using that logic why bother putting on a race suit or a helmet since I am sure they "never had a problem"?
https://show-cars.com/product/4157
https://show-cars.com/product/4156
If you are running a poly bearing you should use the slip joint as stated above it allows the rear half of driveshaft to move fore and aft as the suspension articulates through its range of motion. The original carrier bearing design allowed for this but when you install the much more rigid bearing the rear shaft will go into a bind because it can no longer move front to back.
There are people who convert to 1pc driveshafts and I will state my opinion that if Chevrolet COULD have made a 1pc shaft, they WOULD have if you add the cost of the carrier bearing, the third u-joint, the splined yoke at the rear of the front driveshaft add them together even in 1958 dollars lets say you have $30 x 3,000,000 vehicles built during the 58-64 years (just pulling a number out of the air) is $90,000,000 reasons why GM would have done it if they COULD have. If that is not enough then spend a few minutes to understand the concept of critical speed as it relates to driveshafts. In a nutshell Critical speed is the point in which the driveshaft will begin to distort, vibrate, and eventually fail. I am not an engineer nor do I play one on TV but those are my thoughts. I am sure those that choose to go that route will start flaming me with the "I have ran a 1pc shaft in my car for 20 yrs and never had a problem" responses which is fine to each their own. Using that logic why bother putting on a race suit or a helmet since I am sure they "never had a problem"?
Yeah, I get it. The right way is to get a slip joint back half, will order one this week, this car probably will never see the race track but I do tend to beat the snot out of it on the street. I dont think I'm ever gonna grow up.
None of us will ever grow up on here. If we did, we would make smart and sensible decisions like avoid expensive historical engines to build on. I have tunnel vision for bad decisions so don't take my advice, it might create youthful fun.
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