I don't want opinions.....................on good and bad fuel brands.
Everyone has an opinion on gas branding its not a relevant fact. Rememeber that there are only a few refineries that supply all of your fuels in a given 100mile radius of your home and probably a 1000 miles. Most of our fuel choices comes from #1 price, #2 convenience, #3 opinion. I only know a couple of people who are serious racers that actually check the gravity of their fuel to determine how to tune their car and ensure they are getting a quality product. NO MATTER WHERE YOU GET YOUR FUEL, there is good fuel and bad fuel to be had that has nothing to do with where it came from or which company is selling to the public and everything to do with how it was transported and stored before you actually use it. I used to use a gravity hydrometer each day for Jet and Av fuel for a job I had at an airport. Fuel transporters have a very important job and we could not live our lives as we do without their service. They know they have so much time to get product to its gas station/fuel station before they will have a load that can basically spoil. In the 1000 loads I accepted over the years I never once found a gravity reading that was out of the range it needed to be in. People bad mouth "gas now days" as junk but keep in mind that our motor building has gotten better. If you cannot build a motor in this day and age that can take the "modern bad gas" then you probably shouldn't be building motors. No one disputes that gas is different and certainly no one can say that motors are just as they were before with modern tech we use now. Street cars with less that 500hp are nothing now. I remember in 1995 one guy I knew had a 454 with just over 500hp and he was one in a million. Now everyone has at least 500hp and everyone cries about the gas being bad. I'm going to buy a gravity hydrometer for myself and keep with me so the next time someone wants to complain about how bad the fuel is I will teach you how to use it to determine if it is actually bad or if your tune is bad. Dyno results are the only way to know how your engine can perform under ideal conditions with a given fuel. A car is not a good place for any motor to perform its best but blaming the fuel you bought on bad performance is dumb unless you can prove that fuel is actually bad. Most likely the fuel is fine but the storage of the fuel could be less than ideal. That includes where you keep your fuel. Tune whatever motor you have for whatever kind of gas you are going to run and stop blaming your ideals on a product that is probably just fine for what you are running it in. Granted there are different fuels that act and react differently with the physical engine parts you run. Buy gas for your application not based upon price, convenience or opinion.
Everyone has an opinion on gas branding its not a relevant fact. Rememeber that there are only a few refineries that supply all of your fuels in a given 100mile radius of your home and probably a 1000 miles. Most of our fuel choices comes from #1 price, #2 convenience, #3 opinion. I only know a couple of people who are serious racers that actually check the gravity of their fuel to determine how to tune their car and ensure they are getting a quality product. NO MATTER WHERE YOU GET YOUR FUEL, there is good fuel and bad fuel to be had that has nothing to do with where it came from or which company is selling to the public and everything to do with how it was transported and stored before you actually use it. I used to use a gravity hydrometer each day for Jet and Av fuel for a job I had at an airport. Fuel transporters have a very important job and we could not live our lives as we do without their service. They know they have so much time to get product to its gas station/fuel station before they will have a load that can basically spoil. In the 1000 loads I accepted over the years I never once found a gravity reading that was out of the range it needed to be in. People bad mouth "gas now days" as junk but keep in mind that our motor building has gotten better. If you cannot build a motor in this day and age that can take the "modern bad gas" then you probably shouldn't be building motors. No one disputes that gas is different and certainly no one can say that motors are just as they were before with modern tech we use now. Street cars with less that 500hp are nothing now. I remember in 1995 one guy I knew had a 454 with just over 500hp and he was one in a million. Now everyone has at least 500hp and everyone cries about the gas being bad. I'm going to buy a gravity hydrometer for myself and keep with me so the next time someone wants to complain about how bad the fuel is I will teach you how to use it to determine if it is actually bad or if your tune is bad. Dyno results are the only way to know how your engine can perform under ideal conditions with a given fuel. A car is not a good place for any motor to perform its best but blaming the fuel you bought on bad performance is dumb unless you can prove that fuel is actually bad. Most likely the fuel is fine but the storage of the fuel could be less than ideal. That includes where you keep your fuel. Tune whatever motor you have for whatever kind of gas you are going to run and stop blaming your ideals on a product that is probably just fine for what you are running it in. Granted there are different fuels that act and react differently with the physical engine parts you run. Buy gas for your application not based upon price, convenience or opinion.
Kinda makes sence Don. Being a bracket racer with a street/strip car, I always used the same fuel from my local BP petrol station, fuel was pump premium BP ultimate, 98 RON, 86 MON, 92 octane, this was with my previous 476 10.25 - 1 comp engine. Sometimes at the track with the moon and all the stars in line, DA at about 1000', killer conditions, the car just would not run the number. I know there are many varibles but the differences in fuel batches must have been one of them.
