Header help

[johnnyriviera]

Hi everyone, looking at buying these headers. Haven’t seen them in person as they are far from me. They look like most Stahl headers I’ve seen, except for he way they split. On most Stahl the number 7 tube comes out, but these appear to have 3 and 5 tube remove. Not sure how you would install them as the remaining 1 and 7 tube are inside and outside frame rail respectively. Am I missing something? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, John

 

[BSL409]

Hi everyone, looking at buying these headers. Haven’t seen them in person as they are far from me. They look like most Stahl headers I’ve seen, except for he way they split. On most Stahl the number 7 tube comes out, but these appear to have 3 and 5 tube remove. Not sure how you would install them as the remaining 1 and 7 tube are inside and outside frame rail respectively. Am I missing something? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, John

Those are Not Stahls

 

[Skip FIx]

They kind of look like my old 70s version Hookers. The two center tubes wrapped under the frame and collector went straight back like that. The rear tube either had to have the fenderwell cut or "heavily massaged" Some pictures here somewhere of them. I'll try and dig some out later. Had me in the low 12s @ 108 back in '72.

 

[johnnyriviera]

Thanks for the replies. The tube bends look similar to Stahl, but other parts look very different. I have some modern Hookers currently, and they look very different. I am shopping for big tube headers, I like the look of the Wilson headers, but where their collectors come out may interfere with where my roll cage ties to the frame in front. My have to take the big $ bite with some new ACP (Stahl) ones.

 

[Skip FIx]

Yep new Hookers totally different. The old ones are't aren't real big tube though. But then lots of 600 HP Engine masters motors use 1 7/8" headers.

 

[johnnyriviera]

True. I wonder what limits first? The 1-7/8 primary tubes, or the 3” collectors. It’s easy to cut off the 3”, then weld on a 3-1/2” collector. I’m looking at going over 500 inches and was told my 474 was starting to push the limits of the headers I had. I am by no means a header expert.

 

[Skip FIx]

If you are going over 500" I'd sure look at 2" if not 2 1/8". My 500" Pontiac motor is using 2" and dyno'd close to 700 HP with them.

 

[johnnyriviera]

2” primary with 3-1/2” collector is what I was thinking. The good news for somebody is I’d most likely have a used set of Hooker headers for sale!

 

[Skip FIx]

That is a pretty versatile size. My RAIV 400 like smaller tubes but all mt other motors have liked 2"-3.5s. I do have Jardine 2" tri ys for the 470/409.

 

[tenxal]

They look like a set of Hedman's I had....#1 and #7 were together like that. Good working headers.

 

[johnnyriviera]

Thanks for all the info. Still wondering how these install. Usually the tube that goes outside the frame is the removable one. Seems you'd have to pull the inner fender to snake this in there.

 

[tenxal]

Thanks for all the info. Still wondering how these install. Usually the tube that goes outside the frame is the removable one. Seems you'd have to pull the inner fender to snake this in there.

I cut #7 and made it a slip fit. Went on easily without much inner fender trimming, then.

 

[Skip FIx]

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