Real or fake 63 409 Bel Air?

[Jim Sullivan]

What side trim are you talking about on the red car above? All that I see are shadows from whatever it's next to down the rt.side,maybe I'm missing something?

I think it's the car in the first post in this thread Don.

 

[Iowa 409 Guy]

From 2013 and the poster hasn't been here since then.

 

[region rat]

I don't see that anyone has mentioned the trim down the side isn't what would have been on a Bel Air (or any other '63 trim level). It looks like some sort of aftermarket add-on trim.

Seems like this was one that someone added stuff to in order to fit their own "vision".

Did a Biscayne have trim like that?
Looks familiar

 

[1964SuperStocker]

Did a Biscayne have trim like that?
Looks familiar

Only the 64 Belair had trim in that area. Should be at the top of the quarter, door and fender or down level with the bumper. Not in the center where just the 64 Belair has its moldings. The Biscayne for 64' also had it down on the body line even with the rear bumper. 64 Super Sport has the moldings above that line by a couple inches. Literally only the 64' Belair had moldings on that body line for those two years.

 

[1964SuperStocker]

From 2013 and the poster hasn't been here since then.

Always good to go back and chew the cud on a project. Would be cool to know where the car is now.

 

[Don Jacks]

That moulding is from a company named Trim Bright.It was popular back during the mid-late 70's as a protection from parking lot dents.

 

[1964SuperStocker]

That moulding is from a company named Trim Bright.It was popular back during the mid-late 70's as a protection from parking lot dents.

I'd seen the rubber strip inside the molding. Very interesting.

 

[1958 delivery]

and as ugly as sin

 

[our1962]

Did a Biscayne have trim like that?
Looks familiar

1963 Biscayne Trim

 

[El Rat]

One way to “somewhat” prove high performance or no is the “cutout” under the dash mounted tach. The factory cutout is perfection not a hack job...just sayin!

 

[1958 delivery]

Couldn't you get tach on 327 cars?

 

[El Rat]

Note: high performance above.

 

[1958 delivery]

Note: high performance above.

But doesn't prove if 409 since 327 had tach also, at least I think they could have it

 

[Junky]

Why not look at the block stampings and compare them to the VIN???

 

[1958 delivery]

Why not look at the block stampings and compare them to the VIN???

No engine in car of original poster

 

[Toms63SSQB]

Couldn't you get tach on 327 cars?

Yes, 300hp 327.

 

[64ss409]

Yes, 300hp 327.

Yep, with 4 speed. Optional with PG cars.

 

[409gang]

Here is my 2 cents worth, Yes you could get a tach with a 327 and I think the numbers below the flags are correct for a 63 BelAir but not 100% sure. As far as the numbers and flags being at the front of the fender instead of behind the wheel that is correct for a BelAir. On the title in Missouri, 48hp was a 283, 51hp was a 327 and 59hp was a 409, I am 100% sure on the 59hp as I own a real 63 409 car and my title has 59hp on it. I have also owned numerous chevys with 327's through the years and they all had 51hp on the titles.

 

[409gang]

Didn't 63 and 63 use the same badges and 64 and 65 use the taller numbers?

Yes they had a taller number bar and a different set of flags

 

[409gang]

While it would be great to prove one way or another. You will learn all of the fun jokes you can play on people look into your engine bay and pass judgement on you. I showed up to the drag strip with the wagon you see above not even able to move under its own power. Not only did the 348-409 group give me a thumbs up. Some of them dug into their trailers for parts and several stayed up late into the night to help me turn wrenches to get it ready to run down the track the next day. When you are a fan of W motors, you are family whether you car was ever born with a W motor in it. Don't get caught up in worrying about what anyone else says to bring the value of your car down because my cheap family wagon has me, my wife and two boys all smiling ear to ear. My kids literally can't go outside without asking to go see "dad's race car" (3 year old and 20 month old). If it is or isn't its pretty sweet to all of us here. Last time I checked the only people that really care about these motors/cars spend time on this web page. Not walking around putting down anyone's project. If I purchased a 24" cube of crushed metal that was a true 1963 Z11, I'd drag that cube everywhere I go and smile ear to ear when people put it down. Dig as far as you like but spend more time on getting her on the road and don't worry that much about all original.