Reparations

oleblu72

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Not that I'm sticking up for Spartacus cause he would be one of the first ones for a free bus ride out of this country but he said that his proposal was only exploratory not demanding reparations to be paid but you know it can't be far behind. Plus our family never owned any slaves so they can go pound something.

Mark
 

1958 delivery

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You guys have no compassion. I'm all for it. However, first we bill them for all the children born out of wedlock and turned over to the state for care. Then for all the mayhem that the drug trade has caused. Lastly for all the perfectly good housing that they turned into shxt hole slums. If there's anything left over they can have it.
 

oleblu72

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You guys have no compassion. I'm all for it. However, first we bill them for all the children born out of wedlock and turned over to the state for care. Then for all the mayhem that the drug trade has caused. Lastly for all the perfectly good housing that they turned into shxt hole slums. If there's anything left over they can have it.


Lets send Mike to Washington what he says sounds pretty logical to me why he'd have the Dems eating right out of his hand after he gets done with his presentation not to mention all the peoples this topic is about.:D

Mark
 

Carmine

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I try not to get too involved or let some things irritate me, but this reparation nonsense is a major source of discomfort. Some groups have already been catered to and given, given and given even more, for free, seems like forever. So, someone please tell me, how much is enough?? They represent 11-13% of the population but receive 48% (might even be higher, depends on the source) of welfare and social benefits. So what is your bitch about?? You're getting a free lunch every day. Housing. Food. Medical. Dental. Taxi to and from. They don't even know who dat baby daddy is. This really sickens me. Just when I think it might be a moot issue, gone for good, it's splattered all over the news. Kind of like hemorrhoids, good for a while and then they return. OK. Have to go. Judge Judy is on. I need some form of entertainment, Carmine.
 

IMBVSUR?

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Let's just ask the question. If we paid reparations to some, or all black people, how would it change anything? There is one way I would support reparations. The U.S. government pays ( that means you and I PAY for something we never did, to someone that never had anything done to them ) Afterwards, because the government paid, ( that means you and I PAID, for something we never did to someone that never had anything done to them ) Then it all stops! Right? No more whining, no more nothing! You are now an official American. Go get a job, educate yourself, work hard, be a good person, stop living as a color as opposed to a person, stop claiming color is the reason for all issues instead of your education, work history, your personality, criminal record ( not everyone is a criminal for all you bleeding hearts ) etc. That would be worth paying for. I have listened to this crap my whole life. I have heard people say, that they came from somewhere else so they are not responsible. Really! Most people were not slave owners in America. Our ancestors, unless your a pure blood American Indian ( and they came from elsewhere too, we can prove it ) ALL came from somewhere else. I was born here like my parents, however none of them were slave owners either. I am not responsible for anything. Then we can start discussing what other countries had slaves like Brazils amount in comparison to America's numbers. And who really sold and owned them. the true numbers and who opposed it. But isn't that the point of reparations? To make it right? Would that not, and should end it? But it will not no matter who you pay, or how much you pay them. I yield the floor. Sorry for the rant. Glad I am towards the end of my lifetime. I cannot believe what people are do to this country.
 

Junkman 104

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Greg Reimer

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I would like to add to what I wrote earlier today. Why would we be interested in reparations for the persons who don't or won't work for their living when our nation's great veterans have been disregarded by the same government that sent them overseas to take the ultimate chance with their life in defense of all of us? The damnable side of it is that the leftist liberal haters of the military and our defense benefitted by living in a land with strong defense. You know who really got screwed in this last century, more than anybody else? The hard working and successful Japanese immigrants to our country,many of whom were citizens when WW II broke out. I worked with a few of them when I was in my '20's,and they conducted themselves with the dignity and class befitting those worthy of respect. Some even enlisted in the service to get out of internment. After the war, they returned to their civilian lives and started over. Now, that order mandating their internment was initiated by a democrat president that some seem to want to venerate as some kind of saint.
You want to know who deserves a lot of credit for surviving the mistreatment of nearly everybody at some time or another? The Jewish people. They have been in wars since the time of Abraham in the book of Genesis, Jesus the Messiah came during a time of Roman captivity,even though He wasn't treated very well,He had the last word.All through history since then,persecution,near extermination, the holocaust at the hands of a crazy national socialist, and they always seem to come back and regroup. They don't parade around with their hand out demanding everybody else to fill it,they just seem to know how to work and get ahead.Seems to be a cultural work ethic that works every time it's tried.Sure flies in the face of what's being shoved on us now.
 

1958 delivery

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As I said earlier, the Japanese Americans received reparations.
My brother in law, who is a American of Japanese decent, 12 years Green Beret, 3 tours in VN, was at the school house in the attempt to free the POW's in N VN. His brother was also a Green Beret, one tour in VN led an A team. They were both born in US, I do not know if their father was born here or not. When they paid the Japanese reparation, they both received money as there father was locked up during WW2 and was deceased at the time of the reparation so survivors received the money. He was born in 1945. If anyone deserved this, they did. However he never asked for anything, served his country well, wounded 3 times very well decorated Green Beret. You wouldn't believe some of the events he told me about, some still classified today. Again I have to stress he never asked for anything from anyone. Was not afraid to do hard work. He bought a new car when he got the money.
 

4onthefloor

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please. Chinese were slaves, Irish and Italian were pretty much used as slave labor too. Why is it these people cant figure out how to just STFU and go out and work and make their life better for them and their children. Just like every other group has done. We already have been paying for free shit every day. Free phones, rent, food, money....where does it end ? These jackoffs wear better shoes than I do. Where the hell does it end ? Some of these liberal run shithole cities are talking about passing out “stipends” for poor people. Are you shitting me ? Where does an old white guy sign up ?
 

Junky

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It won't end until we get rid of the whole corrupt to the core democratic party! The media is another cess pool that needs a lot of work. Then there is the liberal education indoctrination system... We just go on day after day and allow this BS!

Don't forget the RINO's also. The entire system is corrupt. I am waiting to see how much of our money was paid out on behalf of the congressional members for keeping silent about a few minor indiscretions. I won't hold my breath while waiting, because it will never come to light. Congress protects their own, and exempt themselves from all the laws that they pass that we have to follow.
 

Carmine

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It won't end until we get rid of the whole corrupt to the core democratic party! The media is another cess pool that needs a lot of work. Then there is the liberal education indoctrination system... We just go on day after day and allow this BS!
Well Bob, I guess unfortunately it will never end then. The Democraptic party is here to stay. The two party system. The most we can hope for is to hold them at arms length. Even that doesn't work at times. I know they love to stir the coals. Do they really believe in some of the crap they present such as this reparation nonsense??? I often relate to the democraptic party as I would a hemorrhoid. Just dangles out your rectum. Brings you much pain and discomfort. Serves no legitimate purpose, Carmine.
 

1958 delivery

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please. Chinese were slaves, Irish and Italian were pretty much used as slave labor too. Why is it these people cant figure out how to just STFU and go out and work and make their life better for them and their children. Just like every other group has done. We already have been paying for free shit every day. Free phones, rent, food, money....where does it end ? These jackoffs wear better shoes than I do. Where the hell does it end ? Some of these liberal run shithole cities are talking about passing out “stipends” for poor people. Are you shitting me ? Where does an old white guy sign up ?



ASSIMILATION. Some have, many have not
 

Greg Reimer

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Seems that all the great society entitlement give aways did was breed an entitlement mentality into those targeted to be the recipients. All that war on poverty talk from 50 years plus ago did was create a dependency class of persons who would not have to be responsible for themselves like the rest of the populace.As this continued, the newer generations of entitlement persons would never learn to work and be independent and stand on their own two feet and figure life out. This set the stage for the political scenario we have today. The democrats need to create a permanent underclass of their own making to stay in control. They sacrifice human achievement and independence on the altar of political dominance. The subjects under the left are told to "vote for us again and again (often in the same election) or the Republicans will cut off your welfare,free medical, food stamps,cell phones, bus passes, etc, thereby breeding fear in them to not let things change for the Nation's good. I always admired the small percentage of them that, as children, studied, put out a little effort, did well in school and got ahead. Some of them got scholarships, went to a decent college,got decent jobs,and escaped the politically correct loop of generational entitlements and poverty. The thing that is so sad, as a child grows up and begins to do this, his peers and even his family begin to treat him like an outcast. The result is that the child grows up and never returns to the project as an adult. He or she marries, buys a house, has a family, raises them right and plans for the future,and the result is that the former family practically disowns him or her, but then, as more financial and social success arrives,expects them to"give back". The sad moral of the story is that all success comes at a price. Sometimes, a very high one.
 

Carmine

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Seems that all the great society entitlement give aways did was breed an entitlement mentality into those targeted to be the recipients. All that war on poverty talk from 50 years plus ago did was create a dependency class of persons who would not have to be responsible for themselves like the rest of the populace.As this continued, the newer generations of entitlement persons would never learn to work and be independent and stand on their own two feet and figure life out. This set the stage for the political scenario we have today. The democrats need to create a permanent underclass of their own making to stay in control. They sacrifice human achievement and independence on the altar of political dominance. The subjects under the left are told to "vote for us again and again (often in the same election) or the Republicans will cut off your welfare,free medical, food stamps,cell phones, bus passes, etc, thereby breeding fear in them to not let things change for the Nation's good. I always admired the small percentage of them that, as children, studied, put out a little effort, did well in school and got ahead. Some of them got scholarships, went to a decent college,got decent jobs,and escaped the politically correct loop of generational entitlements and poverty. The thing that is so sad, as a child grows up and begins to do this, his peers and even his family begin to treat him like an outcast. The result is that the child grows up and never returns to the project as an adult. He or she marries, buys a house, has a family, raises them right and plans for the future,and the result is that the former family practically disowns him or her, but then, as more financial and social success arrives,expects them to"give back". The sad moral of the story is that all success comes at a price. Sometimes, a very high one.

Very well said Greg and I agree. I could take it a step further, but it's probably best I don't. I don't want to be accused of being a racist which couldn't be further from the truth, Carmine.
 
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