Dave, most of the comment was aimed at the story of the officer from Alaska Gasser. However, your point about the safety of the teachers is also the point. You don't have to beat the snot out of them, however the teacher, or officer should be able to use enough force to resolve the situation without getting fired. Some kid starts wailing on me, I will do what is necessary to stop me getting hurt. Goes back to personal responsibility. Maybe a good whack would get their attention, and save them and society a lifetime of misery. And if they are not mentally challenged, I say we go slap the parents around also.