What Has America Become?

oleblu72

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Trump bucked the crooked system he had some people worried and all's I can say is these crooks better thank their lucky stars because if Trump got 4 more years things might have gotten pretty interesting and now their all sleeping better at night and that's another one we should mark down in the Crying Shame column. But now the nightmare continues because Trump wasn't successful in locking anyone up and they're still on the job being crooks.

Mark
 

IMBVSUR?

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Supporting Member 2
News Max is very upbeat.......:good if the man loses fair and square, so be it. But if not, we still have laws. He can use them. There's more than liberals that want him gone.....

I agree. If he loses fair and square, let's move on. My concern is I no longer trust either side. As an example, I thought we had a Dem, and Rep. watching over the counts to be fair to all. Did they really stop a fair observation? If so, how can it be? For me, the real issue is I cannot understand why anyone, left or right would not want a fair election. That means, legal registered voters only with ID's. Every vote counted, left and right no matter what. No voter suppression from either side. If the vote is in by the election deadline then it should be counted if the counters are slow. Seems pretty simple to me, I guess I must just be living in a fantasy land of wishful thinking, or wishfully wanting to believe that people are actually good down deep. I guess I have answered my own thoughts and questions though.
 

IMBVSUR?

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I was giving the whole fairness in vote counting thing some thought. With all of our technology, why cannot we simply have camera's above all vote counters. Actually all ballots should be standardized across America that can be read from a computer. The ballots should still be clearly visible to the recording cameras to show if they were left or right, yes or no as they are fed to the machines. Less people but reviewable. I bet the left and the right will not go for anything that will hold both sides accountable.
 

Iowa 409 Guy

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Supporting Member 15
Does anyone know if ballots have some identifying mark on them?

I do know that here in Iowa at the polls, when a new packet of ballots is opened, they are counted. Then, at the end of the day, any unused ballots are counted and reconciled.
 

oleblu72

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The Rats have showed us their roadmap for the last 4 years .When they argued against photo id's everyone should have questioned this because it smells ,they wanted cameras above ballot drop-off boxes taken down and I don't know if the vote counters in DemoRat districts were just trying to stick it to Repubeicans to be wise azz's or if they were really trying to hide something and I'm going to go with hiding something because of their Schiff like dishonesty.

Mark
 

bobs409

 
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Don't know but there has to be a way of fixing this disaster we call an election. This is nothing new and should have been fixed eons ago! Will it be done this time? I won't hold my breath waiting since it's DC that would have to fix it. :waiting2:

The IRS seems to know how to keep track of people and things. Maybe ask them? (a bit of sarcasm) How about treating ballots like paper money and adding things like holograms and water marks so you can spot real ones and make it impossible to fake one? Get as much of the human factor out of it too! The more hands in there, the more cheating can happen such as throwing Trump ballots on the side of the road??? (that would never happen, would it?)

I'd also like to suggest mail in ballots only be used if the person won't be in the area to vote in person or they can't get around for some health reason. These should be verified too. Also, none of this voting for a month ahead of time! The longer it goes on, the easier it is to manipulate it. Make it in person for maybe 3-4 days?

Just a few things rattling around in my head. :D
 

Junkman 104

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IMBVSUR?

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Good luck convincing the left. They don't believe the socialism there, will be the socialism here. They are living in a Twilight Zone episode they think will never end. It always ends like every other fantasy, some are just a little longer than others.
 

IMBVSUR?

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Supporting Member 2
Sorry Bob, I feel the same. And it sometimes may sound like I have given up, or in to the other side, I have not. I just can't afford the hospital bills from banging my head against the wall anymore. I see a very corrupt system that both sides are playing against the citizens of the US. I still believe the conservatives and the republicans are better than the left, however they are only better, not free from screwing the public for their benefit, whether that be politically or monetarily.
 
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