Biscayne409
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HI all. I have a line on a '63 Impala, purported to be a 409/425 SS car. Here's the trim tag. Can someone help decipher the codes?
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
1963 Trim Tag - Help Deciphering?
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Biscayne409
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Thx guys.
Engine has been decked, so VIN check is not possible. It shows a 409 now. Will be looking at alternator, starter, carbs, etc to try and confirm engine’s originality.
Can someone help with the option codes as shown on trim tag?
Thx again.
Engine has been decked, so VIN check is not possible. It shows a 409 now. Will be looking at alternator, starter, carbs, etc to try and confirm engine’s originality.
Can someone help with the option codes as shown on trim tag?
Thx again.
I listed the 3 options above. Not sure on the C.
Without a VIN stamp, the best you can do is check the build dates on all the parts compared to the cars build date. Naturally the engine parts need to pre-date the car by a little. (varies)
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Can you post pic of engine compartment? Sometimes there's visible clues
Biscayne409
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Will do on engine compartment pic(s). Car is a couple thousand miles from me but should be able to get a couple pics ahead of me actually seeing the car.
One more question - would power brakes, power steering, radio, etc not show as option codes on the trim tag?
One more question - would power brakes, power steering, radio, etc not show as option codes on the trim tag?
Especially the radiator/fan shroud. Dead giveaway if you're buying thinking it's a original 409 car
Send the tag picture to Carl Snelling he decodes tags and VIN pictures -Carl started this forum item
Here is a post on tags he has been commenting on for the forum.
www.348-409.com
See his comments on not posting lists of all the ACC code (one Page 1 of the above link) to stop clones being done
The ACC codes are not the same at the various GM plants were the cars were built -some are the same but not all ...Carl has said this a number off times
Not all options are shown on Cowl tags for 61 to 64
There are very specific items on all 409 cars, like fan shroud, pulleys brackets, wiring, interior items
carbs, intake, exhaust manifold part numbers -engine block codes and date of the back of the engine block
Paul
Here is a post on tags he has been commenting on for the forum.
1959-1963 cowl tags | 1958-1965 Full size Chevrolet
Her is trim tag from another car i have. Thanks it's an ermine white (or used to be) 1960 convertible built at Van Nuys CA with turquoise interior, 348 and tinted windshield. The pop rivets mean the tag has been removed and replaced or it could be a tag off another car.
See his comments on not posting lists of all the ACC code (one Page 1 of the above link) to stop clones being done
The ACC codes are not the same at the various GM plants were the cars were built -some are the same but not all ...Carl has said this a number off times
Not all options are shown on Cowl tags for 61 to 64
There are very specific items on all 409 cars, like fan shroud, pulleys brackets, wiring, interior items
carbs, intake, exhaust manifold part numbers -engine block codes and date of the back of the engine block
Paul
Biscayne409
Active Member
Been a while so I forget-where can I find the car’s build date and assy date? I know B is for Baltimore but not familiar with other plant codes
Thanks.
Thanks.
Biscayne409
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Thanks, 64ss409. I had forgotten how to decipher the build date coding
Our 1962 - the car belongs to someone else, therefore, I don’t think I can show VIN to public. Why do you ask? Perhaps I can address your question/concern another way?
Our 1962 - the car belongs to someone else, therefore, I don’t think I can show VIN to public. Why do you ask? Perhaps I can address your question/concern another way?
Biscayne409
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Jacked rear wheels off ground today and counted driveshaft turns per wheel turn. Looks like car has 4:11 gears. Looks like a new pumpkin. Didn’t I read that GM only put 3:36 gears in these cars? Was a 4:11 gear ratio an option?
Biscayne409
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Thanks so much! What I find interesting is that if the 4.11 gear set is an option, why isn’t the G80 option (4.11) listed on the trim tag?
The reason is as I stated above that “not all the accessories” are listed on the cowl tag.
GM did not list everything and all GM build plants did “Not“ list ACC items with the same codes
In fact, I have never seen Carl Snelling say that any rear end ratio has ever been listed on the cowl tag - he has hundreds of cowl tags in his private files. Please read his cowl tag forum item I linked above…
post the tags ( with the 1st 5 numbers and one letter of the VIN ) “to Carl Snelling forum item” ( or send him a message) and he will decode the tags for you ( as I mentioned above).
the first 5 numbers and letter of the VIN are needed to verify the model number and GM build plant plus check that the tags match (without revealing the entire VIN). Carl keeps the tags privately ( if you don’t want pictures of the tags posted) - to verify cars for individuals
Paul