409 Stroker Build

[Mark Steele]

Dear Forum Readers,
Before I start my 409 Stroker build, you may have some advice and or parts you would like to sell for my build.
Thanks.
Mark Steele

 

[Last 60]

UH OH, Mark's got the BUG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lonnie

 

[Tom Kochtanek]

Mark:

You might consider contacting Pat Lobb, he purchased that 409 stroker engine from Ronnie Russell and is offering it up for sale. Not sure I remember the specifics, but you know it was done right if Ronnie had his hands on it .

Good luck!

TomK

 

[La Hot Rods]

My advice would be don't do it.....just build a 409 and be proud.
12.32 out of one this weekend just saying and that was with sub par parts by most of you guys standards.

 

[Mark Steele]

Nice advice boys. I want to do a little bit to my engine so I can run with guys like Lonnie. See I only have a little 340 horse and everything I consider leads me back to the fact that I have those 10 lb. stock pistons in there to deal with. That's why I think I might as well go with a stroker. I'm open to advice, cause you guys know I don't know much about it.

 

[La Hot Rods]

Change the rear gear and you will have a smile on your face that will last a life time.
Some heads and new pistons and rods then cam and intake oh and carburetors and........ you get the drill.
I am running 4.56 gears with 9 x 28 slicks with stock 409/ 409 pistons.....Not that I would recommend that but it has put a smile on Toms and my face.

 

[Don Jacks]

WellMark,if you're going to run 11.50's like Lonnie,you're either going to need a very high rpm build for a stock stroke 409 $$$,or a moderate build 4 inch stroker motor.Either way,you're ENTIRE driveline will have to be upgraded/replaced to keep the car from breaking some thing.Broken parts will ruin your day!If you're going to set the car up to run that fast,start at the rear of the car first.Do not pass go,put a 9 inch[I'd suggest a 4.30 gear],the 4th.arm suspension parts,good aftermarket control arms and braces in it..Then attack the stock drive shaft.Once you get into the mid 12 second range,that transmission will need to be up graded.
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[MRHP]

It takes quite a bit of dough to make 11.50 and not break all the time. Especially for a street driven car. I am 11.70's in a full weight car and everything works hard. Don gave you some good advice to start with.

 

[Iowa 409 Guy]

I'm running 4:30's now and would go to at least 4:56. Also what Don and Brian said.

 

[scott hall]

4:30 gears work in the Lonnie mobile. With 4:56 it was running out of RPM. It goes through the traps at about 6200. Goodluck on the build Mark. If I can be of assistance just holler.

Scott

 

[quik9r]

Stroke it, take the stress away. Cubic inch, less compression, less rpm.... makes for dependability.

Quik9r

 

[Rickys61]

Definitely what Mr. Jacks said... especially about the rear... do the 9" ad the driveshaft first or it will be ugly with a little traction or wheel hop... ask me how I know....

 

[303Radar]

And like Don suggested, start from the rear back. This will keep parts from breaking and leaving you unhappy.

 

[Mark Steele]

I'm putting together my list for a new 9" set up.
Not sure of my rear end ratio. Not sure of how many RPM's I want to turn going across the line. I still have time.
Question: How many splines should I go with on the axles? Show Cars has from 28 to 40 splines. I don't know much about the topic.
Thanks Mark

 

[quik9r]

spline can affect pocket book, always going to be track car?? and potential horsepower the car can see now and in the future. do it once with that in mind.

Quik9r

 

[Don Jacks]

Mark,I'd go 31 spline.Once you go above 35,posi units are hard to find,and very expensive.Get the aftermarket case,a locker diff,and the gear ratio of your choice and 31 spline axles will handle more than you'll ever throw at it.

 

[BSL409]

Mark,
buy it from John's 9 not show cars. ask for Lynn I bought two from them so have others

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[MRHP]

EXACTLY what Brian said.

 

[La Hot Rods]

How quick do you want to go?

 

[IMBVSUR?]

How quick do you want to go?

More than my pocketbook says I can, probably faster than my older reaction would allow safely, but as fast as mind teenage mind says I can