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La Hot Rods

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Ronnie used Scat H beam rods in my current motor and when i took every thing to the machine shop he recommended changing out the rod bolts. They had arp 1800 series i believe and he replaced with the 2000 series rod bolts.:dunno2

Were the big ends still round?
The eagle rods in the 460 after 2000 or so road miles were out of round pretty bad according to the machines. I did talk to eagle about replacing or upgrading the rod bolt and said it was just a waste of money and wouldn't make any difference. :dunno
 

Murphdog

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Most all (especially import, Scat, Eagle, numerous others) rods will check out of round after a minor amount of time. You could probably disassemble a new set, deburr the parting line, reassemble & torque and they would check out of round to some extent. Upgrading to the ARP 2000 series should be a very minimal cost. IMO rod bolts are somewhat overrated. When you look at reciprocating loads (a factor of stroke, rod length, weights & RPM) most bolts are plenty strong.
 

Ishiftem

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Most all (especially import, Scat, Eagle, numerous others) rods will check out of round after a minor amount of time. You could probably disassemble a new set, deburr the parting line, reassemble & torque and they would check out of round to some extent. Upgrading to the ARP 2000 series should be a very minimal cost. IMO rod bolts are somewhat overrated. When you look at reciprocating loads (a factor of stroke, rod length, weights & RPM) most bolts are plenty strong.
That’s right. That’s why I went with callies compstars. Round out of the box and after hundreds of runs they are still round. Worth the extra in my opinion.
 

Jim Sullivan

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Well the machinist at the shop I use just told me he is retiring in February. So if I want my block bored, I had better get it to him sooner rather than later. Had to improvise getting the block on the stand since I can’t get to my cherry picker. I’m going to measure the the cylinder walls to verify the minimum it can be bored so I can get the pistons ordered.IMG_2470.jpeg
The bumper jack worked ok for lifting the block to mount on the stand.
 

Murphdog

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Well the machinist at the shop I use just told me he is retiring in February. So if I want my block bored, I had better get it to him sooner rather than later. Had to improvise getting the block on the stand since I can’t get to my cherry picker. I’m going to measure the the cylinder walls to verify the minimum it can be bored so I can get the pistons ordered.
The bumper jack worked ok for lifting the block to mount on the stand.
So how old is the machinist you are using? Asking for a mutual acquaintance!
Jeff
 

Jim Sullivan

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I’m not sure, my guess he is only in his mid to late 60’s. Or he just looks that young. I’ll have to ask him when I drop my block off for boring. The machine shop is part of an automotive parts business. The parts store will continue but I think he said the machine shop will close up once he leaves.
 
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