Bob Walla Delivers the First Aluminum 409 Block

yellow wagon

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Well for me its 2 things. I think the older cars look better with a big huffer sticking up over the hood. I look at turbos as newer tech and my car was built kinda retro.
2nd...I already have a Buick Grand National with a 249 stroker going in this winter. Its 800hp, so I know what the turbos are capable of. You wouldnt want to try to drive an 88 in a street car. It spools like crap. A 70 is massive on the street and still makes 975hp on a V6. I'm running a 66 and it makes enough for me.
Oh, did I mention...I drive my cars on the street...1000hp or not. It should still be pretty mild even at a grand, and Im running a 4L80E tranny.

Sweet! Sounds like you have some really fun projects on the plate! Post lots of photos for sure!! c:beer
 

k9hotrodder409

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Very nice Guys !!! Like my son said..... We can't wat till next years Thompson where hopefully we will see that monster in full dress and RIPPING ( Not Blowing ) some doors off !!!:eek:cool:

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david montanbeau

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Back in the mid 80s? their was a guy that owned a aluminum foundry named Rusty Sims. He was in the Midwest 409 club out of the Chicago area. He was going to cast the heads from aluminum, then i lost track of him. Does anybody know if it happened?
 

1958 delivery

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Back in the mid 80s? their was a guy that owned a aluminum foundry named Rusty Sims. He was in the Midwest 409 club out of the Chicago area. He was going to cast the heads from aluminum, then i lost track of him. Does anybody know if it happened?

Yes, changed his name to Bob Walla to protect the innocent (witness protection program):crazy
 

Dick MacKenzie

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Rusty is still around (he's often on the board but doesn't post much). He sold the foundry a while back. Don't think he cast any heads but I could be wrong.
 

Phil Reed

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Ron....................me thinks he's looking for Rusty!!!! I don't know his "handle" on here......................
 

Jim409_Pontiac

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Bob delivered a new block to us at Thompson this weekend!:beer

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It looks great! It has billet steel four bolt main caps and everything is built very strong but as you can see from the photo's it's quite a bit lighter than a factory block.
Bob also had a new iron block there but you won't see him carrying that one by himself. :scratch

We got him to build this aluminum block with BBC sized mains and cam tunnel. It's also drilled for a BBC pan and front cover. He can machine them to take regular 348/409 components but the BBC stuff works better for us.
We're not sure how many cubic inches we'll end up with. I think it might accept a 4.40 bore and a 4.25 crank will fit easily. That would give us 517 ci. Anything in that range will be fine for us.
The iron blocks will take a bigger bore, at least 4.50 but maybe 4.60 which would be good for 565 ci using a 4.25" stroke.
We'll use this block to build a new engine for the Pontiac. I'll start a build thread on that as soon as we get started. The plan is to have it ready in time for next years race season.:beer

Well we finally got around to weighing the two blocks. We used our new 4 corner computer scales. The iron block we used for comparison is a 1965 car block. Bobs block with sleeves and 4 bolt main caps came in at 65lbs lighter. Bobs block is 131lbs and the factory block is 196lbs.
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Ronnie Russell

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You guys must be proud. What a beautiful piece. Jim, will we see it at Thompson? I hope, I hope, I hope. :beer
 

jim_ss409

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Jim, will we see it at Thompson? I hope, I hope, I hope. :beer

Yes Ronnie, that is our plan if all works out. We should be delivering it to the machine shop this week or early next week. We will start a build thread when it starts going together.
 
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