The Donald.

[Jeff Olson]

Donald Trump is not Presidential material. He is arrogant. Nasty. Obstinate. Bully. Narcissist. Egotistical. The list goes on and on. How long do you think any of his cabinet members would last?? Two hours maybe before they can't stand him anymore and quit. Do you think for one minute he is going to bully Putin who has KGB blood running through his veins. I doubt it very much. No, Trump is not the person you want leading this country with their finger on the button. If you think he really wants the Presidency, you're sadly mistaken. He wants what it represents and possibly can't have. He has bought everything else in life and this is his final frontier; the chase. The trophy. There is nothing left for him except this. He has turned off and soured the Latinos, veterans, and woman. What's left? The blacks. They wouldn't vote for him on their worse day. Someone should inform him that the people he alienates, represent a lot of votes. He never engages his peanut size brain before opening his big mouth. I forgot to mention, this guy is also very selfish and a whiner; cry baby. If he doesn't get the nomination or " isn't treated fairly", he has threatened to run as an independent. All that will do it take more votes away from an already shattered, skeletal GOP campaign. His strategy: my way or the highway. Whoever the Democratic candidate is, assuming its Hillary, if this guy gets the nomination, she doesn't have to campaign at all. Just sit back and watch this guy self destruct and destroy the GOP. I could go on and on, but I won't. I may very well be the only one who feels this way. If I could sum it up this way, Donald Trump is a fugitive clown from the Ringling Brothers Circus, Carmine.

So far it appears that you have described Roosevelt(s), Grant, Jefferson, Churchill, and a few other notables from years past in your first line. I am not convinced those qualities are necessarily a bad thing as I so tired of everyone being "politically correct" I could puke. Still not saying Trump is the man but I would welcome a candidate that has a set.

 

[1958 delivery]

So far it appears that you have described Roosevelt(s), Grant, Jefferson, Churchill, and a few other notables from years past in your first line. I am not convinced those qualities are necessarily a bad thing as I so tired of everyone being "politically correct" I could puke. Still not saying Trump is the man but I would welcome a candidate that has a set.

You might as well piss on their graves comparing Trump to those fine men.

 

[Carmine]

So far it appears that you have described Roosevelt(s), Grant, Jefferson, Churchill, and a few other notables from years past in your first line. I am not convinced those qualities are necessarily a bad thing as I so tired of everyone being "politically correct" I could puke. Still not saying Trump is the man but I would welcome a candidate that has a set.

Are you for real Jeff???? Those characteristics I mentioned are just that; they are not "qualities" at all. And, they "aren't necessarily a bad thing"??? Then are they necessarily a good thing??? I just finished reading books on Grant and FDR. No similarities there. Trumps attitude and approach would have been well served during the Third Reich. He would have made a good Nazi. I could care less about political correctness. I'm sick of it also. And yes, I wish someone would grow some testicles and face the issues. Trump does bring to the surface issues that do need attention. Total agreement with that. But he lacks tact in doing go. Tact: sensitivity in dealing with others. Maybe you feel that not having that is not necessarily a bad thing either. Try telling that to the Latinos, veterans and women. You know, many that vote and could have an influence on the election. He has done more to destroy and dismantle the GOP then anyone I've ever seen. And this guy really thinks that he has a chance of being President and would make a good one. The trouble with Mr. Trump is that he has been practicing self-gratification far too long. I see he doesn't wear glasses but I bet he wears heavy contacts. Has to with all that stroking. I've been a Republican my entire life. I don't always vote party line but mostly I will. I'd vote for Hillary Clinton, if she is the Democratic candidate, in a heart beat if Trump was the opposition. With her you know she is a liar, corrupt, phony, arrogant, belligerent, you know, more "qualities". You know what you are getting. Beats pretentious Trump.

Listen, we have a long ways to go. Maybe he'll crash and burn (thank you Lord) or maybe not. I don't read tea leaves. Couldn't tell you. Support who you like and exercise your right to vote when it comes time, Carmine.

Amen to that Mike. Some fine men and leaders there. Trump wouldn't make a patch on their buttocks.

 

[1958 delivery]

Just to add a bit more to what Trump would do, he would end up pissing off all the world leaders including our closest allies. That's not a good thing. He will end up in pissing contests over HIS principles, what ever they may be. He would be the only President to have multiple lawsuits against members of the House and Senate because they didn't vote his way. Simply put he would be a disaster. The A hole contributed to the Clintons and Pelosi, give me a friggin break.

 

[Jeff Olson]

Evidently you don't take time to actually READ what I said before you make comments. Never once did I say Trump could or should be the President. But, all the aforementioned leaders were arrogant, nasty, obstinate, etc etc. evidently you would prefer a ball less follower?

 

[1958 delivery]

Would be OK if his balls and dick weren't in his mouth.

 

[skipxt4]

You pretty much, nailed it, Carmine. Trump is a spoiled Bitch.

 

[Carmine]

Evidently you don't take time to actually READ what I said before you make comments. Never once did I say Trump could or should be the President. But, all the aforementioned leaders were arrogant, nasty, obstinate, etc etc. evidently you would prefer a ball less follower?

Not true Jeff. I did read your posting; several times. I really tried to absorb and digest what you said. Our theme is Trump and the Presidency. You can't have Trump and not have some of those characteristics that he possesses. Like all of us, we are what we are. He is what he is. As mentioned by Skip, he is "spoiled". Good word Skip. He lacks temperament and humility. Two qualities I would like to see in a President. Do you honestly think he would be addressing people the way he does if he wasn't a billionaire?? Guaranteed he wouldn't. He just doesn't care who he offends because of his wealth. He has an enormous amount of money to fall back on. He has everything he wants in life and I'm happy for him. I don't care about that. His one struggle left is the Presidency and he doesn't know quite how to buy it. Well Mr. Trump, it can't be bought. You have to earn and deserve it. I think his top advisors are trying to tell him to tone things down, but due to his arrogance, he doesn't listen. I'm sure that's why his top strategist just quit.
Wrong again Jeff. I don't want a "ball less follower". I want a true leader. Someone who stands up for what is right. Someone who faces the issues tactfully and hopefully can resolve most. Someone who is independent as can be of political parties (that might be tough). Someone well respected at home and worldwide. Someone who mends instead of divides. I have a laundry list of attributes I'd like to see in the next President. Who is that person?? I don't know. Do they really exist or perhaps I'm a dreamer. I do know its not Trump.

Those men you mentioned in your first thread, Roosevelt, Grant, Churchill, Jefferson, as I previously stated, I only read books on FDR and Grant. Articles on Churchill. I don't know much about Jefferson. Those men were dynamic leaders. I didn't find any of those characteristics in them. If they did exist, I didn't see them. Furthermore, these men were under a terrific amount of pressure. Even if they did have a flavor of some of those characteristics, I would understand it. Grant winning the Civil War and trying to reunite the country. Rebuild the South. FDR leading this country through the Great Depression and then WWII. Churchill leading bombarded England. No, these were great leaders. And if they did appear to be a little distant, I wonder why?? Their plate was very full. So, I think its very unjust to compare them to Trump, Carmine.

 

[Ronnie Russell]

Opinions, opinions, opinions. We all got one. My opinion is ; It does not matter if the GOP is unified or divided. The game is over. The entire world is now ruled by social media. Violent protests around the world are now planned and executed with iphones. Protests in this country are coordinated with social media, sometimes in a matter of a few hours. As far as elections go...... its math,, simple math. Hispanics will vote Democrat,,, blacks will vote democrat. A certain percentage of whites will vote democrat. You don't need identification to vote ??? I wonder why. A lot of the above opinions people have voiced are made based on past history. There have been times when the middle class republican white voters could win because of better organization. No more. Social media has changed that. Have you noticed that the so called protesters, who don't have a job. don' t have a future, rely on the gov. for food stamps and welfare, have iphones? The people ain;'t gonna give up their " free stuff". Trump has rallied the white middle class republicans . A lot of white middle class people do not want another plain vanilla candidate. You can't believe any of them , anyway. Trump might be the best president ever or the worst. I do not pretend to know. People believe that candidates , both republican and democrat, are lying to them. They believe Trump is telling the truth because time after time, he should lie as to not rock the boat. Trump doesn't care about the boat. It really does not matter. In my opinion, and that's all it is, my opinion, there will never be another republican president. The people will not give up their free stuff, and if for some reason it is taken from them, blood in the streets. Another opinion,,,, if Biden gets in, that would mean the FBI has concrete evidence on Hillary. Can you imagine Biden or Bernie as president? All of this adds up to a very entertaining fall and winter. Maybe all of my opinions are wrong?? Hope so.

 

[skipxt4]

Well said, Ronnie. As far as B & B goes, I may need to upchuk. It really doesn't matter, what side of the aisle they stand on. NONE of them, have the people's best, interests, in mind. The same shit, over and over. Let's get rid of the Unions, Medicare, Social Security, and any other program, that adds to the deficit. Since they, make the laws, they never stop and think, that maybe their hugh pensions and perks are the real cause, that this country is in the RED. OK, I feel better now.

 

[62impala409]

Ronnie has a good point about people not giving up their "free stuff". An old timer explained it very well to me years ago. He said "if the poor people don't have food for their kids, they will come and take your food"! When they started paying people not to work, it was the beginning of many more social programs. You will never put that Genie back in the bottle.

 

[Fathead Racing]

The problem is the Dems system is not self sustaining. When they have picked the last pocket of successful working people who will be left to pick the wheat and bake the bread? In the end the people will get what they deserve. I wish I could be around to see. Chaos in the streets when the liberal system fails, no more money from the tax bankrupt business. Hard working Americans/patriots ridiculed and hated for their success.

 

[Carmine]

Ronnie Russell, "never another Republican President", I have also thought about that. You could have a very valid point there. With the Great American Giveaway, some would be foolish to bite the hand that feeds them. Henceforth, another Democratic President.

Well guys, I've enjoyed reading your threads and sharing mine with you. I sincerely listen to what everyone has to offer. I may not always agree, but I don't discount what is said either. Its time for me to move on. This discussion could go on forever. I make no apologies for what I said. I stand by my words. I only hope I didn't offend anyone. I'm not like that. It would never be my purpose to do something like that. I try to walk on the path of life peacefully. I may not like Trump and what he represents, but I mean harm to no one, Carmine.

 

[Don Jacks]

All most of us can do at this point is .

 

[W Head]

Well said, Ronnie. As far as B & B goes, I may need to upchuk. It really doesn't matter, what side of the aisle they stand on. NONE of them, have the people's best, interests, in mind. The same shit, over and over. Let's get rid of the Unions, Medicare, Social Security, and any other program, that adds to the deficit. Since they, make the laws, they never stop and think, that maybe their hugh pensions and perks are the real cause, that this country is in the RED. OK, I feel better now.

skipxt4, I have been paying social security since I was 9 years old and am now 72. there is no telling how many thousands of $$ I have paid into that system. LBJ was the person that screwed SS up by putting the money into the "General Fund" to help pay for the Nam War. I agree that many, many social programs and give aways need to go, but that is my $$ in SS and not the goverments. I would guess there are several on this site that will agree with me. How much money have you paid into SS?

W Head

59 Impala 409-2,4s

 

[1958 delivery]

skipxt4, I have been paying social security since I was 9 years old and am now 72. there is no telling how many thousands of $$ I have paid into that system. LBJ was the person that screwed SS up by putting the money into the "General Fund" to help pay for the Nam War. I agree that many, many social programs and give aways need to go, but that is my $$ in SS and not he goverments. I would guess there are several on this site that will agree with me. How much money have you paid into SS?

W Head

59 Impala 409-2,4s

SS dept tells you how much you have in there.

 

[Iowa 409 Guy]

A lot of truths spoken here by all today. I hate to say it, but I don't look for much to change for what I consider "the Good" in this Country.

 

[skipxt4]

W Head: I agree. I have been working, since I was 12 or 13. A paper Route, was my first job. Medicare, is ours, also. It was taken out of our taxes. One time, when I hurt my back, and was on disability, my wife and I needed to apply for Food Stamps. We sat there, for three hours and received a voucher for $ 53.00 a month. I think we stuck out, like a sore thumb in there.

 

[oldskydog]

I'm not a Trump supporter but here's another angle to consider.




By: Wayne Allyn Root

Someone is getting very nervous. Obama. Valerie Jarrett. Eric Holder. Hillary Clinton. Jon Corzine…to name just a few. And I know why.

I wrote a book entitled, “The Murder of the Middle Class” about the unholy conspiracy between big government, big business and big media. They all benefit by the billions from this partnership and it’s in all of their interests to protect one another. It’s one for all, and all for one. It’s a heck of a filthy relationship that makes everyone filthy rich. Everyone except the American people. We get ripped off. We’re the patsies.

But for once, the powerful socialist cabal and the corrupt crony capitalists are scared. I’ve never seen them this outraged…this vicious…this motivated…this coordinated. NEVER in all my years in politics, have I seen anything like the way the mad dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump.

When white extremist David Dukes ran for Governor of Louisiana even he wasn’t treated with this kind of outrage, vitriol and disrespect. When a known fraud, scam artist and tax cheat like Al Sharpton ran for President, I never saw anything remotely close to this. The over-the-top reaction to Trump by politicians of both parties, the media and the biggest corporations of America has been so swift and insanely angry that it suggests they are all threatened and frightened like never before.

Why? Because David Duke was never going to win. Al Sharpton was never going to win. Ron Paul was never going to win. Ross Perot was never going to win as a third party candidate. None of those candidates had the billion dollars it takes to win the presidency. But Donald Trump can self fund that amount tomorrow…and still have another billion left over to pour into the last two week stretch run before election day.

No matter how much they say to the contrary, the media, business and political elite understand that Donald Trump is no joke and could actually win and upset their nice cozy apple cart.

It’s no coincidence that everyone has gotten together to destroy Donald. No this is a coordinated conspiracy led by President Barack Obama himself. Obama himself is making the phone calls and giving the orders- the ultimate intimidator who plays by the rules of Chicago thug politics.

Why is this so important to Obama? Because most of the other politicians are part of the “old boys club.” They talk big, but in the end they won’t change a thing. Why? Because they are all beholden to big money donors. They are all owned by lobbyists, unions, lawyers, gigantic environmental organizations, multi-national corporations like Big Pharma or Big Oil. Or they are owned lock stock and barrel by foreigners- like George Soros owns Obama, or foreign governments own Hillary with their Clinton Foundation donations.

These run-of-the-mill establishment politicians are all puppets owned by big money. But one man- and only one man- isn’t beholden to anyone. One man doesn’t need foreigners, or foreign governments, or George Soros, or the United Autoworkers, or the Teachers Union, or the SEIU, or the Bar Association to fund his campaign.

Billionaire tycoon and maverick Donald Trump doesn’t need anyone’s help. That means he doesn’t care what the media says. He doesn’t care what the corporate elites think. That makes him very dangerous to the entrenched interests. That makes Trump a huge threat. Trump can ruin everything for the bribed politicians and their spoiled slavemasters.

Don’t you ever wonder why the GOP has never tried to impeach Obama? Don’t you wonder why Boehner and McConnell talk a big game, but never actually try to stop Obama? Don’t you wonder why Congress holds the purse strings, yet they’ve never tried to defund Obamacare or Obama’s clearly illegal Executive Action on amnesty for illegal aliens? Bizarre, right? It defies logic, right?

Well first, I’d guess many key Republicans are being bribed. Secondly, I believe many key Republicans are being blackmailed. Whether they are having affairs…or secretly gay…or stealing taxpayer money…the NSA knows everything.

Ask former House Speaker Dennis Hastert about that. The government even knew he was withdrawing large sums of his own money, from his own bank account. Trust me- the NSA, SEC, IRS and all the other 3-letter government agencies are watching every Republican political leader. They know everything.

Thirdly, many Republicans are petrified of being called “racists.” So they are scared to ever criticize Obama, or call out his crimes, let alone demand his impeachment.

Fourth, why rock the boat? After defeat or retirement, if you’re a “good boy” you’ve got a $5 million dollar per year lobbying job waiting.

The big money interests have the system gamed. Win or lose…they win.

But Donald Trump doesn’t play by any of these rules. Trump breaks up this nice cozy relationship between big government, big media and big business. All the rules are out the window if Donald wins the presidency. The other politicians will protect Obama and his aides. But not Donald.

Remember Trump is the guy who publicly questioned Obama’s birth certificate. He questioned Obama’s college records and how a mediocre student got into an Ivy League university.

Now he’s doing something no Republican has the chutzpah to do- question our relationship with Mexico …question why the border is wide open…questioning why no wall has been built across the border…questioning if allowing millions of illegal aliens into America is in our best interests…questioning why so many illegal aliens commit violent crimes yet are not deported…questioning why our trade deals with Mexico, Russia and China are so bad.

Donald Trump has the audacity to ask out loud why American workers always get the short end of the stick? Good question.

I’m certain Trump will question what happened to the almost billion dollars given in a rigged no-bid contract to college friends of Michele Obama at foreign companies to build the defective Obamacare web sites. By the way that tab is now up to $5 billion.

Trump will ask if Obamacare’s architects can be charged with fraud for selling it by lying. He will ask if Obama himself committed fraud when he said, “If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it.”

Trump will investigate Obama’s widespread IRS conspiracy, not to mention Obama’s college records.

Trump will prosecute Hillary Clinton and Obama for fraud committed to cover-up Benghazi before the election.

How about the fraud committed by employees of the Labor Department when they made up dramatic job numbers in the last jobs report before the 2012 election.

Obama, the multi-national corporations and the media need to stop this. They recognize this could get out of control. If left unchecked telling the raw truth and asking questions everyone else is afraid to ask, Donald could wake a sleeping giant.

Trump’s election would be a nightmare. Obama has committed many crimes. No one else but Donald would dare to prosecute. Donald Trump will not hesitate. Once Donald gets in and gets a look at “the cooked books” and Obama’s records, the game is over. The gig is up. The goose is cooked.

Eric Holder could wind up in prison. Valerie Jarrett could wind up in prison. Obama bundler Jon Corzine could wind up in prison for losing $1.5 billion of customer money.

Hillary Clinton could wind up in jail for deleting 32,000 emails …or accepting bribes from foreign governments while Secretary of State …or for “misplacing” $6 billion as head of State Department …or for lying about Benghazi.

The entire upper level management of the IRS could wind up in prison. Obamacare will be defunded and dismantled. The Obama Crime Family will be prosecuted for crimes against the American people. And Obama himself could wind up ruined, his legacy in tatters.

Trump will investigate. Trump will prosecute. Trump will go after everyone involved…just for fun. That will all happen on Trump’s first day in the White House.

Who knows what Donald will do on day #2?

That’s why the dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump. That’s why we must all support Donald. This may be our only shot at saving America, uncovering the crimes committed against our nation and prosecuting all of those involved.

 

[skipxt4]

If, he keeps his mouth going, he may end up, in the Hudson River, with cement boots on. One thing for certain, Crooks don't like, to be called Crooks.