Z-11 Factory/ Dealer information

409Kid

409Kid

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Been many years since I was on this forum. Curious to know if there has been research done and if an assembled list of known and missing Z-11 cars, their VIN numbers , colors, original dealer and possibly original purchasers was ever done? Where do I find such a list if one exists?
 
409Kid

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Thank you Skip. It’s been probably 20 plus years. Time has gone by as other interest took over. I’ve have and collected 409s since I was 15 years old. That nearly 50 years ago. When I read a Popular Hot Rodding or Super Chevy ( been too long to remember for sure ) of a black Sport Belair sponsored by Maranatha Chevrolet (?) in the L.A. area. Well that’s all it took to light a fire within. I acquired a stable of cars and other vehicles that were 409 powered that I’ll share later.

I’m hoping to find the information I’ve requested. Seems there was once a list compiled and possibly discussed or shared on this forum ages ago. I’m hoping some one has access to it.
 
La Hot Rods

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409Kid said:
Thank you for looking. Is he still active on the forums? Is there a way to PM members?
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Yes he is still on here every now and then. You can click on his name that I have posted, it will have a box that will say start a conversation. That should get you started.
 
409Kid

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Hey every one. Thank so very much with the help. That’s exactly what I was looking for.

There was a mention that someone was writing a book on the Z-11s in one of the linked threads. Did that ever get done? If it was, what is the title and where can I get a copy?
 
1964SuperStocker

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62BillT said:
Wondering if there is any update to that list that was posted 7 years ago.

Sure is interesting stuff.
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There are many of us using what little time and resources we have to track down any image, note, video, paper clipping, marketing ad with just about anything related to the Z11. I think I have poured through nearly a million images from the Peterson Auto Museum to find any images of Fiala's Z11. I found a few of his other cars but I still have a long way to go. Contacted a number of old racers that would have gone head to head with Fiala or any Z11 of the era and there just haven't been many leads. I never report back to those who have the most knowledge unless I am 100% sure I have useful information because there is so much bad information floating around. I'm just a younger worker bee trying to be helpful where I can and learn as much as I can. Welcome back 409kid!
 
409Kid

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I’m having the same problem trying to locate any unpublished photos of my racing endeavors back in the 70s-80s. I rarely had the time or the inclination to take pics at the track and never learned the art of using a real camera. The idea of digital pics, smart phones with cameras, Go Pros and all the other technology has made capturing moments so much simpler.

There was a professional photographer out here in CA by the name of Ron Burch. I have a few pics of my ‘62 Sport Belair in action but none of my 409 powered A/Altered that I restored or my ‘61 Sport Impala. Well he fell onto hard times and apparently sold his life’s photography to an unknown buyer. I’d like to get all the pics Ron took of my cars but for all intents and purposes that ship has sailed. I have but very few pics of the Belair trackside, one of the Impala before I owned it trackside and a few at he house and less of the altered during its restoration.

Of course back in the day the Z-11s and other cars of great interest today were just race cars back then. To be raced on Sunday, discarded for the next model, sold off, thrashed further, wrecked , scrapped, with parts scattered to the wind or lost entirely waiting to be rediscovered. Luckily a few examples remain intact to be coveted by some very fortunate individuals. Some of the cars appear to be well documented because of the drivers attached to them, feature articles, event coverage, Track or National records obtained. Other cars and drivers with less distinguished careers are more obscured.

Given that these cars sole purpose was to promote the brand it’s amazing that any one of them has managed to survive today. Once they reached obsolescence these car had no value. Certainly at that time no one gave any thought these cars would ever be worth a plug nickel
 
63 dream'n

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I cannot take credit for this list this goes to Kevin………

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I've wanted to do this for a long time, now is as good a time as any. Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of these. Here's 50. Many thanks to Raj for detailing info on the lesser known cars!


Strickler/Jenkins: Ermine White
Don Nicholson: Ermine White
Dick Harrell: Ermine White
Malcolm Durham: Ermine White
Sox and Martin: Ermine White
Dave Colbert: Ermine White
Joie Chitwood: Ermine White
Huston Platt: Ermine White
Larry Moody: Ermine White
Vincent Fiala: Ermine White
Buddy Taylor: Ermine White
Jack May: Ermine White
Dick Milner: Ermine White
Tom Sturm: Ermine White
Harold Pully: Ermine White
John Zintsmaster: Ermine White
Bruder Chev/magazine test car: Ermine White(?)


Hayden Proffitt: Ember Red
Terry Prince: Ember Red
John Hagen: Ember Red
Brian Batchelder: Ember Red
Don Everhart: Ember Red
Don Kimball: Ember Red
Jim Johnson: Ember Red
H.L. Shahan: Ember Red w/white top
Jim Weathers: Ember Red


Carl Wells: Palomar Red
Bill Schultz: Palomar Red
Billy Lagana: Palomar Red
Irvin Johns: Palomar Red
Bob Delia: Palomar Red
Chuck Turner: Palomar Red


Bill Connell: Monaco Blue
John Hollingsworth(Platt, Bell): Monaco Blue
Jack Bayer: Monaco Blue
Butch Leal: Monaco Blue
Richard Broome: Monaco Blue
Larry Fenska: Monaco Blue
Bob Porter: Monaco Blue


Jack Cooley: Tuxedo Black
Virgil Hartgrove: Tuxedo Black
Bures Hall: Tuxedo Black
Mike Lenke: Tuxedo Black


Bill Clay: Silver Blue
Steve Bagwell: Silver Blue

Frank Sanders: Azure Aqua
Van Snyder: Azure Aqua

Richard Schroeder: Ivy Green

Bob Tucker: Autumn Gold

Ron Campbell: Satin Silver

Colors not used: Laurel Green, Adobe Beige, Saddle Tan, Cordovan Brown, and Marine Aqua.
 
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The following is by no means claimed to be totally accurate, many cars status is unknown. In fact I would love input by anyone who may have documented information. For a while I was trying to document as much of this information but some people say they are planning to do a publication documenting the Z11s. My problem is at this point in life I can't wait a whole lot longer and would like to see as much documentation out in the public forum as can be put together but know one wants to talk! LOL. What you see below was initially put together by Rusty and I have modified it as I have come across additional information. Also, I don't know whose car Dennis' parts are taken from.

Z11 cars by State / Dealer

Alabama
Pierson Chevrolet, Gadsden, AL: Jim Weathers - Status unknown
Dement Mollison Chevrolet, Birmingham, AL: Carl Wells - Status unknown

Arizona
Rudolph Chevrolet, Phoenix, AZ: Frank Sanders - Currently restored

California
Cone Chevrolet, Fullerton, CA: Hayden Proffitt - Supposedly wrecked in Texas
Service Chevrolet, Pasadena, CA: Terry Prince - Currently restored
3 Way Chevrolet, Bakersfield, CA: H. L. Shahan - Status unknown
Del Munson Chevrolet, Pixley, CA: Larry “Butch” Leal - Status unknown
Bill Bader Chevrolet, Fontana, CA: Jack Bayer - Reported junked in 1980, but may still exist in Northern CA: parted out.
Ernie Porter Chevrolet, Pasadena, CA: Boyd Porter - Thought to be parted out in the 1980s
Ed Prister Chevrolet, Montrose, CA: Mike Lenke - Status unknown
Bruder Chevrolet, Hollywood, CA: Artis Bowls (Richard Schroeder) - Currently restored, Owned by Don Fezell
Clippinger Chevrolet, Covina, CA: Ron Campbell - Currently restored
Don Steves Chevrolet, La Habra, CA: Tom Shahan
Don Steves Chevrolet, La Habra, CA: Lee Ellis
Don Steves Chevrolet, La Habra, CA: Tom Strum - Junked *

Florida
Jim Rathman Chevrolet, Melbourne, FL: Bob Tucker - Found in Ohio

Georgia
Valley Chevrolet, Atlanta, GA: Don Nicholson - Destroyed in race accident by second owner.
Valley Chevrolet, Atlanta, GA: Huston Platt - Junked – front end still exists.
Valley Chevrolet, Atlanta, GA: Steve Bagwell - Status unknown
Wallace Chevrolet, Albany, GA: Bill Connell - May have been junked. Front end still exists, Don Fezell put it on the green car.

Illinois
Nelson Chevrolet, Libertyville, IL: Bob Delia - Status unknown
Mancuso Chevrolet, Skokie, IL: Burris Hall - Disassembled & put on street with a 283

Indiana
Smith Chevrolet, La Porte, IN: Larry Moody - Status unknown
Zintmaster Chevrolet, Kokomo, IN: - Last seen on a car lot, never titled
Bub Gates Chevrolet, Indianapolis, IN: Jim Johnson - Reportedly still exists. At one time converted to small block race car.

Iowa
Rapids Chevrolet, Cedar Rapids, IA: Vincent Fiala - Status unknown

Kansas
Hattan Chevrolet, Wichita, KS: Bill Clay - Status unknown
Singling Chevrolet, Wichita, KS: Bill Schultz - Reported in restoration, should be completed by now

Kentucky
Broadway Chevrolet, Louisville, KY: John Ward
(Irvine Johns, VV Cook Chev car) - Possibly disassembled

Louisiana
Oliver Chevrolet, Morgan City, LA: Jack Cooley - Status unknown

Maine
Woodward & Austin Chevrolet, Portland, ME: Brian Batchelder - Car is unrestored in Ar. Has front end.

Minnesota
Midway Chevrolet, St. Paul, MN: John Hagen - Parted out in 1972

Michigan
Floyd Floren Chevrolet, Detroit, MI: Chuck Turner - Restored

North Carolina
Adamance Motor CO, Burlington, NC: Sox & Martin - Went to Ohio in 1966, not seen since.
Cobb Motor Co, Goldsboro, NC: John Hollingsworth - - Status unknown
City Chevrolet, Charlotte NC: (Don Eberhart car) - Parted out. Converted to 327 & sold on used car lot. Front end still exists (Hank Gabbard)
H&N Chevrolet, Havelock, NC: Hubert Platt - Junked, burned in field. Front End Still Exists
Stokes Motor Co, King, NC: V.P. Hartgrove - Restored w/ original engine.
Abernathy Chevrolet,Hickory, NC:Clyde Curtis, Wayne Baker - Status unknown, Sold to Richard Bloom in 1963.

New York
Oak Hill Chevrolet,East Chester, NY: Bill Lagana - Restored
Salinas Chevrolet,, Syracuse NY: Don Kimball - Body junked
Glen Campbell Chevrolet,Buffalo NY: Dave, Lee Colbert - Car owned by Pat Lobb, currently in restoration. Dave still races NHRA Super Stock.

New Mexico
Moran’s Gateway Chevrolet, Carlsbad, NM: Dick Harrel - Status unknown

Ohio
Dutch Folk Chevrolet, Akron, OH:Butch PeterS (Joie Chitwood car) - Restored

Pennsylvania
Ammon R. Smith Motor Co, York, PA:Strickler/Jenkins - Currently restored, Owned by Don Fezell

South Carolina
Harter Chevrolet, Camden, SC: Bondy Long – Richard Broom Car - Status unknown

Texas
Friendly Chevrolet, Dallas, TX: Buddy Taylor - Status unknown

Virginia
Watts Chevrolet, Williamsburg, VA: Winston Parker (Jack May Car) - Hank Gabbard restored

Washington D. C.
Hicks Chevrolet, Washington D.C.: Malcolm Durham - Restored, rebodied

Washington
Alan Green Chevrolet,, Burien, WA: Dick Milner - Restored, Don Fezell collection. Dick Milner is active on Facebook in a few racing groups.

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