that's a great point phil, I'll have to climb out and give the wheel a turn...a friend stopped over and was handed a dolly...I pulled the left front tire and got into the wheelhouse and hammered from below...skimmed the area, sanded and applied a glaze...it's now primed and ready for the final touch up before I lay down the new paint...I realized when hammering out the dent it will be far easier to paint the A frames with the tires off...tomorrow is gonna be a busy day for me, gotta get one of my old harleys out of my buddies museum, he's had it for 2 years and I wanna ride it...completely original from the paint to the seat