Races won by the 348 and 409

jim_ss409

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NHRA, guys with bottles of water in there pockets at weigh in, after the race they get handed a bottle of water before weigh in.

I remember hearing a story of Nascar guys going to the weigh in with all four tires full of water,,, then running back to the pits and putting on a set filled with air.
I also remember hearing about them filling the rollcage with BB's or birdshot,,, then removing a cap that let them all drain out.
Of course, Nascar soon got wind of this and started to demand a weigh in AFTER the race too. I gather that this lead to even more creativity.
The guy telling the story said some teams had a way of putting the weight back in. Apparently, they would put a bunch of lead shot into the gas can and empty it into the tank on the last pit stop.
He said the gas cans were so heavy that you could see the pit crew struggling to lift them.
 

Red Baron

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I recently read that Junior Johnson won the 1960 Daytona 500 with a 348 powered Chevy. I dodn't know that.:dunno It got me to wondering if there was a list of wins by 348-409 cars. If not, maybe we should start one. Here's a few that I've heard about but I can't say 100 percent that I'm right about these...

1960... Junior Johnson wins the Daytona 500
1961... Ned Jarrett wins the Nascar Championship
1961... Frank Saunders wins Super Stock at the Winternationals
1961... Don Nicholson wins Stock Eliminator at the Winternationals
1962... Don Nicholson wins Stock Eliminator at the Winternationals again
1962... Hayden Proffitt wins Stock Eliminator at Indianapolis
1962... Dave Strickler wins SS/S at the US Nationals

I also remember reading somewhere that a 348 or 409 powered car won it's class at Pikes Peak:scratch

If anybody knows of other wins or can make any corrections to this list please post them. Maybe we can compile a complete list.:deal



EDIT...
I recently came across a few more wins posted by NASCAR FAN that weren't in this thread so I'll add them here. I'll also give a more complete list using info gathered from this thread...

1960... Junior Johnson wins the Daytona 500

1960... Rex White was the NASCAR Champion driving his 1960 348 Chevrolet Bel Airs

1961... Bill Patterson was the NHRA A Stock class Champion at the '61 Winternationals with his 348 1960 Impala.

1961... Ned Jarrett wins the Nascar Championship

1961... Frank Saunders wins Super Stock at the Winternationals

1961... Don Nicholson wins Stock Eliminator at the Winternationals

1962... Don Nicholson wins Stock Eliminator at the Winternationals again

1962... Hayden Proffitt wins Stock Eliminator at Indianapolis

1962... Dave Strickler wins SS/S at the US Nationals

1962... Winternationals B/Stock Terry Prince 60 348

1963... Winternationals A/Stock Strickler/Jenkins 62 409

1963... Winternationals L/P Franks Sanders 63 Z-11

1963... Winternationals B/FX Dick Harrell 62 409 w/z-11 top

1963... AHRA Winternat. S/S Dick Harrell 63 Z-11

1963... Summernationals A/FX & Strickler/Jenkins 63 Z-11
Little Eliminator

Also, sometime in the 60's, Wiley Cossey won a Stock Class
at the Summernationals with a 59 El Camino w/348.

Here's another group of winners I copied from a thread posted by Mark, (oil4kids)

A/S Ed Strick '58 - 90 mph
San Gabriel, CA. 12/29/57 - AA/S Larry Head '58 - 15.21 @ 91
Pomona, CA. 1/5/58 - S/S Bill Palri '58 280hp - 15.26 @ 99
A/S Roger Westberg '59 15.90@ 93
B/S Ed Pearcy '58 15.20@ 97
Westhampton, N.Y. 5/24/59 S/S Ralph Ezzo '59 93 mph
A/S Toky Toormino '58 90 mph
Union Grove, WI. 5/24/59 A/SS C. Fionvanti '59 14.97@ 96
A/S T. McKaliffe '58 15.70@ 91
B/SS R. Reese '59 15.13@ 95
Gary, IN. 5/24/59 O/SS Dan Hargus '59 15.01@ 98
Chandler, AZ. 5/24/59 S/S D. Dockery '59 15.23@ 95
Wichita, KA. 5/24/59 A/S B. Holley '59 15.05@ 90
Gary, IN. 5/24/59 O/SS Dan Hargis '59 15.01@ 98
Cotati, CA. 5/30/59 S/S John Parslow '59 14.07@ 97
A/S Dan Dobbins '58 14.86@ 93
San Antonio, TX. 5/31/59 A/S Clyde Finch '59 91 mph
Santa Ana, CA. 5/31/59 AA/S Perf. Assic. '59 15.31@ 94
S/S Delvaux Bros. '59 14.58@ 97
B/SP H. Proffitt '57 13.50@105
Santa Ana, CA. 6/7/59 S/S St. Sweepers '59 14.20@100
San Gabriel, CA. 12/28/59 S/S Perf. Assoc '58 315hp 13.94 @ 101
F/S James Gray '58 280 hp 14.53 @ 97
Houston, TX. 4/17/60 C/S A. Hartkoph '60 13.23 @ 100
Long Beach, CA 7/13/60 B/S T. Sturm '60 13.12 @ 108
Pomona, CA. 7/23/60 S/S AA Sales '60 13.89 @ 100
Fontana, CA. 7/30/60 S/S E. Westbrook '60 13.80 @ 103
Oswego. ILL. 7/30/60 A/SS J. Harverly '60 14.33 @ 102
York, PA 6/17/61 A/SS Strickler & Jenkins '61 13.30 @ 109
Pomona, CA 6/17/61 A/S C. Stevens '61 13.72 @ 105
C/S B. Allen '60 14.38 @ 99
Colton, CA 6/24/61 S/S Wild One '61 13.99 @ 100
Cordova, IL. 6/24/61 S/S B. Cherrington '61 14.16 @ 100
Little Rock, AR. 7/1/61 S/S C. Mitchell '61 13.58 @ 104
York, PA. 7/9/61 S/SS Strickler & Jenkins '61 409 13.22 @ 108
Pomona, CA. 7/15/61 B/S Prince/Nicholson '60 13.80 @ 104
Indy, IN. 9/2/61 S/SS Don Nicholson '61 409 2x4 13.38 @ 109
Long Beach, CA 11/7/61 U/S P. Petre '61 409 2x4 13.30 @ 108
S/S E. Olsen '60 14.52 @ 96
York, PA. 11/7/61 U/S Strickler/Jenkins '61 409 13.09 @ 114
San Gabriel, CA. 11/7/61 A/S Perf. Assoc. '61 13.44 @ 104
B/S Prince/Nicholson '60 13.73 @ 103
Fontana, CA. 6/30/62 U/S G. Hanney '62 409 13.14 @ 111
Union Grove, WI. 6/30/62 U/S W. Nugent '62 409 13.63 @105
Phoenix, AZ. 7/14/62 A/S F. Sanders '62 409 13.21 @107
Oswego, IL. 7/14/62 U/S Dan Hargis '62 409 12.88 @110
A/S Bud Richter '58 14.02 @102
Fontana, CA. 7/14/62 U/S Jack Bayer '62 Z11 12.80 @114
Fontana, CA. 7/21/62 S/P H. Proffitt '62 Z11 13.05 @115
San Gabriel, CA. 7/28/62 A/FX H. Proffitt '62 Z11 12.40 @113
B/FX Cone Chev. 409 13.19 @110
Pomona, CA. 8/11/62 S/SS Butch Leal '62 409 12.57 @111
Long Beach, CA. 8/18/62 F/X H. Proffitt '62 Z11 12.22 @117
Indianapolis, IN. 9/2/62 S/SS H. Proffitt '62 Z11 12.83 @ 113
Emporia, VA. 10/6/62 S/SS D. Strickler '62 Z11 12.05 @ 120
Tampa, FL. 11/25/62 F/X Hubert Platt '62 Z11 11.69 @ 117
Long Beach, CA. 12/1/62 F/X H. Proffitt '62 Z11 11.75 @ 117
Long Beach, CA. 12/8/62 S/SS Butch Leal '62 Z11 12.26 @ 115
Long Beach, CA. 4/27/63 F/X F. Sanders '63 Z11 11.93 @ 120
Long Beach, CA. 4/21/63 A/S T. Lacobson '62 409 13.11 @ 109
F/X J. Bayer '63 Z11 11.92 @ 121
Henderson, NV. 4/21/63 U/S Vans Autos '62 Z11 12.88 @ 114
C/S S. Greigo 348 14.36 @ 95
C/SP D. Marion '61 (327) 13.98 @ 102
Oswego, IL. 4/14/63 U/S Bures Hall '63 Z11 13.08 @ 109
San Angelo, TX. 4/21/63 A/S Byran Teal 409 12.98 @ 112
B/S Mel Schooler 348 14.31 @ 98
Long Beach, CA. 5/4/63 U/S Bourgois & Wade Z11 12.15 @ 118
U/S Terry Prince Z11 12.15@ 115
York, PA. 6/1/63 B/S Joe Gardner 409 12.69@ 112
Hobbs, N.M. 6/2/63 A/S C. Therwhanger 409 13.05@ 109
Oswego, IL. 6/8/63 B/S Bud Richter '58 348 14.15@ 101
Wichita, KS. 6/8/63 S/S Bill Clay 409 12.81@ 110
C/S Bob Coussil 348 13.67@ 101
Des Moines, IA. 6/9/63 U/S Vince Draper '63 Z11 12.30 @115
Long Beach, CA. 6/9/63 A/S T. Jacobson '62 Z11 12.43 @112
Tampa, FL. 6/9/63 S/S Bob Tucker '63 Z11 12.00 @115
Bayview, MD. 6/16/63 S/S Don Nicholson '63 Z11 11.83 @119
York, PA. 6/22/63 S/S Ronnie Sox '63 Z11 11.82 @117
San Angelo, TX. 11/9/63 S/S Dick Harrell '63 Z11 12.29@ 116
Houston, TX. 5/24/64 F/X Dan Dean '64 Z11 Chevelle 12.18@117

Dyno Don also won Stock Eliminator at Indy in 61. His car ran in O/SS,optional
super stock. However, he was later disqualified because he had the new GM valve springs that were not yet approved for use.

Some small corrections:

Sanders (L/P 63 Winters) and Dickie Harrell(B/FX Winters) were both DQ’d taking the runner ups with them.

You’ll notice in the attached pic the 63 Winters B/FX class result has been omitted - Harrell was one of those unfortunate few like Nicholson and Gay who were presented with the trophy and THEN got the bad news.

Sanders went through hell - First the Z11s got put into L/MP rather than S/S due to build #s - and then the techs went to town...DQ’ing him for incorrect cyl volume and valve height.

Worse, back then if the winner was DQ’d...the class or Eliminator was dumped.

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