You know, even without firearms, there are nasty devices that can be built to be subversive. Acetylene bombs, home-brew explosives, booby traps, motor vehicles, etc. That shows the stupidity of disarming Americans. Criminals will find another way to be criminals, it's part of their defective DNA. If there were absolutely no guns, they never were invented,let's say, they would still be criminals using other,maybe much worse devices. They would hurt or kill everybody within a radius, not just the intended target. The roadside bombs currently employed in portions of the Middle East are a perfect example of what could go on here. One thing is certain, they don't discriminate.