The truth about guns.....................

Clyde Waldo

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I live about ten miles south of Montgomery City Missouri population less than 3000 people. Don't know these two kids. Ellen sometimes substitute teaches at the schools, we shop in town and go to church in that town.

Hope this link works.

www.komu.com/news/update-charges-filed-in-montgomery-county-kidnapping-case/
 

Clyde Waldo

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No body ever accused me of being good with a computer.

Google: komu kidnapping charges filed

Local 15 year old girl kidnapped by exboyfriend who has pistol, no one hurt, during the kidnapping girl tries to get his gun and shoots hole in his truck's dashboard.
 

wrench

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How Gun Control Works
 

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Phil Reed

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http://www.wvcdl.org/ContactWVCDL.html

This man and organization deserve support!!!! That news anchor was one of the most flaming Progressives as I've ever seen!!! They keep asking the "need" for these guns and magazines. NEED has nothing to do with it!!!! Chevy makes a wonderful car so why does anyone NEED a Cadillac???????????? It's a stupid argument!! What we individually want..that's legal..........has nothing to do with need!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we want something that is legal...available...and we have the money to pay for it........that what America is all about!!!!! Time to take some more blood pressure medicine!!!
 

Iowa 409 Guy

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I hear ya Phil. I am a Life Member of Iowa Carry and also a life memeber and endowment member of the NRA. I get very PO'ed at these news liberals. They never talk about the fact that the "assualt weapon" at Sandy Hook WAS IN THE TRUNK OF THE CAR.
 

BSL409

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http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2495/ny_democrat_pleads_with_republican_not_to_share_document_proposing_confiscation_of_guns

But if Republican Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin is to be believed, the New York State Democrats would have gone further if they could have. Much, much further.
In a video posted to his Facebook page, McLaughlin has shared the information of a 'secret' Democrat proposal not simply to make the purchasing of the crudely monikered 'assault weapons' illegal in New York, but also to engage in a mass confiscation programme, removing Americans' weapons from their possession.

The full list of proposals can be read below:
1. Confiscation of "assault weapons"
2. Confiscation o ten round clips
3. Statewide database for ALL Guns
4. Continue to allow pistol permit holder's information to be replaced to the public
5. Label semiautomatic shotguns with more than 5 rounds or pistol grips as "assault weapons”
6. Limit the number of rounds in a magazine to 5 and confiscation and forfeiture of banned magazines
7. Limit possession to no more than two (2) magazines
8. Limit purchase of guns to one gun per person per month
9. Require re-licensing of all pistol permit owners
10. Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years
11. State issued pistol permits
12. Micro-stamping of all guns in New York State
13. Require licensing of all gun ammo dealers
14. Mandatory locking of guns at home
15. Fee for licensing, registering weapons
 

bobs409

 
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You would think this is the FIRST time some nut went on a shooting spree. This has happened how many times in the past? I know why it's happening. It's because the left and Obummer types are using this tragedy to push their pathetic ideas on the rest of us.

The real enemy is here and it lives in the white house. I can't believe how this guy gets away with the things he does. How the hell did he get re-elected????????? (I still think it was rigged)

I just can't believe there is nothing to stop him either. I never thought it was possible here in the U.S. and can't shake that helpless feeling that I've had for the past 4 years.

And if I hear "write or call your elected officials" and complain one more time! That doesn't seem to do a damn thing. Do they even read any of those letters or take those phone calls? If they did, would it even matter?

Or you hear to vote them out. Sure... And another one gets in probably worse.

Why can't we hold these people accountable? How can we??

Sorry, got off on a rant. :bat
 

BRYAN FUGATE

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He used Pistols the Bushmaster was found in the trunk after he was dead.There are a couple of videos on youtube that are very enlightening too many discrepencys
 

Iowa 409 Guy

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They think like this.............

A DRUNK SLAMS HIS CAR INTO A BUS FULL OF CHILDREN AND KILLS 20 OF THEM, AND THEY WANT TO COME AND TAKE MY CAR FROM ME TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM...........????????????? WTF..................just like the gun issue..........i m PO'ed
 

oldskydog

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Here's what happened the last time the government tried to confiscate weapons.



Wounded Knee a History Lesson


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A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY TO THINK ABOUT.......December 29, 2012 marks the 122nd Anniversary of the murder of 297 Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee Creek on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota. These 297 people, in their winter camp, were murdered by federal agents and members of the 7th Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms “for their own safety and protection”. The slaughter began after the majority of the Sioux had peacefully turned in their firearms. The Calvary began shooting, and managed to wipe out the entire camp. 200 of the 297 victims were women and children. About 40 members of the 7th Cavalry were killed, but over half of them were victims of fratricide from the Hotchkiss guns of their overzealous comrades-in-arms. Twenty members of the 7th Cavalry's death squad, were deemed “National Heroes” and were awarded the Medal of Honor for their acts of heroism.

We hear very little of Wounded Knee today. It is usually not mentioned in our history classes or books. What little that does exist about Wounded Knee is normally a sanitized “Official Government Explanation”. And there are several historically inaccurate depictions of the events leading up to the massacre, which appear in movie scripts and are not the least bit representative of the actual events that took place that day.

Wounded Knee was among the first federally backed gun confiscation attempts in United States history. It ended in the senseless murder of 297 people.

Before you jump on the emotionally charged bandwagon for gun-control, take a moment to reflect on the real purpose of the Second Amendment, the right of the people to take up arms in defense of themselves, their families, and property in the face of invading armies or an oppressive government. The argument that the Second Amendment only applies to hunting and target shooting is asinine. When the United States Constitution was drafted, “hunting” was an everyday chore carried out by men and women to put meat on the table each night, and “target shooting” was an unheard of concept. Musket balls were a precious commodity and were certainly not wasted on “target shooting”. The Second Amendment was written by people who fled oppressive and tyrannical regimes in Europe, and it refers to the right of American citizens to be armed for defensive purposes, should such tyranny arise in the United States.

As time goes forward, the average citizen in the United States continually loses little chunks of personal freedom or “liberty”. Far too many times, unjust gun control bills were passed and signed into law under the guise of “for your safety” or “for protection”. The Patriot Act signed into law by G.W. Bush, was expanded and continues under Barack Obama. It is just one of many examples of American citizens being stripped of their rights and privacy for “safety”. Now, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is on the table, and will, most likely be attacked to facilitate the path for the removal of our firearms, all in the name of “our safety”.

Before any American citizen blindly accepts whatever new firearms legislation that is about to be doled out, they should stop and think about something for just one minute-
Evil does exist in our world. It always has and always will. Throughout history evil people have committed evil acts. In the Bible one of the first stories is that of Cain killing Abel. We can not legislate “evil” into extinction. Good people will abide by the law, and the criminal element will always find a way around it.

Evil exists all around us, but looking back at the historical record of the past 200 years, across the globe, where is “evil” and “malevolence” most often found? In the hands of those with the power, the governments. That greatest human tragedies on record and the largest loss of innocent human life can be attributed to governments. Who do the governments always target? “Scapegoats” and “enemies” within their own borders…but only after they have been disarmed to the point where they are no longer a threat. Ask any Native American, and they will tell you it was inferior technology and lack of arms that contributed to their demise. Ask any Armenian why it was so easy for the Turks to exterminate millions of them, and they will answer “We were disarmed before it happened”. Ask any Jew what Hitler’s first step prior to the mass murders of the Holocaust was- confiscation of firearms from the people.

 
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